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firebird_uk 31st October 2017 13:33

Is everyone in EASAland fitting 8.33 radios and disabling their 25Khz kit??
 
It's law in the EASA world to have 8.33 compliant kit from 01/01/18 (excluding the feds and mil (of course)).

Lots of people I speak to don't seem to be bothering. Are you?

chopjock 31st October 2017 13:52

Only in airspace that requires the use of radio...

206 jock 31st October 2017 14:24

Yep. Another tax on aviation for no discernible benefit. The 20% contribution from European funds is pathetic but better than nothing I suppose.

Mandatory if your machine is sued commercially - 2 sets for AOC work:ugh:

Hughes500 31st October 2017 14:55

well somewhat lucky the Garmin GNS 430 was a simple reprogram. To replace the King KY196A with a 196 b is £ 6500 !!!!!!! While to replace a King KX165 Nav comm is only £ 4500 where oh where do they get those figures from. Not a tax I thought highway robbery had been outlawed 2 centuries ago

Hughes500 31st October 2017 17:50

PDR

It has already been proved we don't need 8.33 as there are enough frequencies to go round on 25 spacing.
As for the equipment the manufacturers must be laughing, as they are able to take the piss as usual:ugh:

firebird_uk 1st November 2017 00:45

Documentation online seems to imply that the 8.33 frequencies will be substantially cheaper for ground stations. Airfields looking to save money will move to these thus ensuring enforced compliance (even if it is not done via maintainers, ARC renewal etc).

I'd expect the prices will then slide back up again.....

500e 1st November 2017 10:20

There is no way the pricing is justifiable with the cost of components etc.
If priced in sensibly they would sell a larger volume rather than try to mod old kit.
I think it was Motorola that said, Once a product was worked on the MTBF went down by a significant factor.
But keep thinking just because it's aircraft it costs & it is quality equipment :sad:
Not quite comparable but marine equipment is peanuts in comparison.
Land mobile equipment also.

GoodGrief 1st November 2017 11:02


Originally Posted by PDR1 (Post 9943216)
Can you point me to this remarkable piece of objective evidence?

PDR

AOPA hasa worked out a very good plan. 8.33 is not necessary.
Eurocontrol liked it very much but France, the UK and Germany voted against a European frequency plan.

They argued that aviation frequencies are a matter of national sovereignty.

GoodGrief 1st November 2017 12:01


Originally Posted by PDR1 (Post 9943293)
Again, evidence or it didn't happen!

PDR

Google broken? I won't spoon feed you.

chopjock 1st November 2017 13:02

PDR1
Have you got evidence 8.33 is actually needed?
Sounds like a load of EURO nonsense to me...

Spunk 1st November 2017 15:36

Lucky
 
Lucky me this time. Garmin 430 and G530 only needs to be reprogrammed, the G1000 already has it and I just sold the oldest aircraft of the fleet with the old Bendix/King installed👍

GoodGrief 1st November 2017 15:51


Originally Posted by Spunk (Post 9943479)
I just sold the oldest aircraft of the fleet...

:ok::{..........

ShyTorque 1st November 2017 16:32


Originally Posted by Spunk (Post 9943479)
Lucky me this time. Garmin 430 and G530 only needs to be reprogrammed, the G1000 already has it and I just sold the oldest aircraft of the fleet with the old Bendix/King installed👍

The Garmin 430 & 530 can be configured to and from 8.33 by the user; it can be done in flight if required.

lowfat 1st November 2017 17:02

I was fitting 8.33 radios back in 2000..


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