MD 600N
 

Saw of few of these for sale, they seem very underpriced relative to the rest of the rotary market and I have no type specific knowledge. What am I missing? Is it a maint hog or something etc?
Thanks!

Same problem over here. The Notar is not well liked..

Well,
MD had some problems with spareparts ...
I know that some operators of MD helicopters joined together to exchange parts from helicopters on the ground to keep the rest of their fleets flying.
Don´t know, wether the situation has improved so...

Pax in rear cabin get seasick from the yawing/wallowing motion

That's a new one I've never heard that before
Neither has any of my passengers
What a load of tosh

Md 600 driver.
Does your 600 have YSAS/stab augmentation or whatever MD call it. The machine that was in Oz didn't and the punters in the back did get sick. :E

Totally agree been using mine for last 4 years on tourist oops, flown thousands of passengers and can only remember 2 being sick

No ysas - you get used to it and a pilot with any ability can fly them smoothly

Never flown 600, but got a couple thou hrs flying 520,s 15 odd years ago on utility work. Great longline machine, moved lots of drills and seismic. All ones I flew had YSAS but it never worked, so breaker pulled and placarded. You learnt to fly really smooth without it. Lots of fun but preferred the E or D myself. oh well back to flying the Bells and Eurocopter/Airbus whatever they call it these days.

I bought mine without YSAS and had
YSAS Retrofitted after a year but that wasn't for passengers getting ill

MD600N Facts...maybe, maybe not!
 

First I would like to say I am a big fan of the MD600N...took a ride (as a passenger) in one a few years back when I was regulated to piloting in the Robinson arena.


That being said....Looking at the production list at AeroBoek MD Helicopters NOTAR Production it lists 83 airframes produced for this model. According to the listings 21 of them NOT including the preproduction airframe (which was not part of the said 83) have crashed and thusly been written off. That's a full one third of the total! Many varying reasons for those accidents so its up to you to form your own opinion.


Still a fan and would eagerly step forward at a chance to pilot one

Vegas.
Me thinks it's 25% but still an alarming statistic. No common thread? (No pun intended ;-)

Palma I stand corrected more like 25% as you stated

Maybe you should only read data from official sources that are correct

Just because there was incident it does not mean that the aircraft isn't flying anymore

I for one would be happier flying in a 600 than a 22 ,44 ,66

How does it perform in autorotation? The 500 series is sporty in autorotation, as I understand it and perhaps the 600N is even more so.

It is flying with the optimum blade for the 500, namely the 530F blade but maybe it needs an even longer blade. That might have required a blade of a different chord and an increase in main rotor shaft height to ensure clearance over the tailboom. The even longer blade envisioned for the 520L/530K proposal proved not to have the desired performance. The 530F blade is the optimum for the 500 series but maybe not for the larger 600N airframe.

500 Fan.

500
Not sure which blade comes with it
They were already on the heli but also remember there are 6 not 5 or 4
And yes a bit sporty on autos but not the worst heli for autos

the number of helis crashed, compared to produced, is not a great statistic, as it doesn't tell what they were doing, or where they were doing it.

look at 214's and 214ST's. most of them crashed through abuse, or pilot error, or just the fact of where they were flying, that a minor problem meant that the machine was totalled. Kmax is the same, less than half remaining in the air.... all still pretty good machines.

"Maybe you should only read data from official sources that are correct"


NOT trying to start a fight....But some my or may not be worth the cost of repair...tried to find official accident reports...some of the airframes do not warrant the shipping and repair cost since accident occurred in a remote region....some of the links bring one to the NTSB report for said accident.


http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/NTSB_RN-001_N600RN.pdf Airframe 001


http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/NTSB_RN-004_N9204D.pdf Airframe 004


http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.av...00FA102&akey=1 Airframe 008


http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/TSBCA_A06W0041.pdf Airframe 011


Picture Airframe 012, to be fair, cannot find that this airframe is flying again


http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/RN-012_UPMD004_1C.png


Airframe 016, not know if this airframe is flying also
http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/UP-MD001-crash.jpg


http://www.ntsb.gov/about/employment...12FA084&akey=1 Airframe 17




Air frame 18..unknown disposition of airframe
http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/RN-018_SEJKJ_3C.png




Airframe 20..write off
http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/RN020_XCAAF_1C.jpg


Airframe 024 ....destroyed during white out conditions at Toba Valley, British Columbia, Canada March 2009


Airframe 26 https://assets.publishing.service.go...pdf_501816.pdf
registration removed and currently in storage


Airframe 35 ....Cannot get details about the airframe currentlyhttp://www.aeroboek.nl/600/RN-035_N606BP_1C.png


Airframe 37 http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.av...08X01729&key=1 more to follow


Airframe 48 Accident of MD-600 in Kazakhstan, total loss


Airframe 49 Russia, total loss


Airframe 50, was auctioned off at salvage


Airframe 54, I do not read nor write French, ...http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/RN054_BEA_04062004.pdf


Airframe 55, 28 December 2010 crash in Germany, D-HHWR total loss


Airframe 57, crash landed near Fountain Hills, Arizona. cabin used in James Bond 007 movie, Die another day


Additionally cannot find any info on Airframes 2, 27, 38, and 65


Airframe 63, crash near the Ataturk stadium in Antalya, Turkey. 19 July 2006 total loss


Airframe 71, destroyed by fire after emergency landing airframe W/O


Airframe 78, crash landed near Nimertek village, Nawraparha,
Narayanganj, Bangladesh...Write off
http://www.aeroboek.nl/600/RN078-2.jpg

Totally agree with you about the robinsons

Most of your pictures, and in particular the last one, show the proverbial crashworthiness of the egg-shaped cabin. Remarkable!