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topik22 19th April 2014 19:22

Mountain flying guide
 
Hello,
I would like to ask about help:
I'm preparing myslef to fly in mountain areas so I'm looking for any guide about mountain flying.
PM or link.
Greets and thanks
Jacek

douglasheld 19th April 2014 20:55

Mountain flying guide
 
Would like to hear about books too, but my first recommendation is a couple hours with an instructor.

newfieboy 19th April 2014 21:56

Mountain flying guide
 
Try Canadian in Penticton, BC. They should have what you need.

canadianhelicopters.com/services/flight-training/

mdovey 19th April 2014 22:25

In terms of books, you may wish to look at Helicopter Pilot's Manual: Mountain Flying and Advanced Techniques by Norman Bailey.

It isn't a substitute for proper training though.

Matthew

topik22 20th April 2014 06:52

Thanks a lot,
before flying I need a book:)
Greets
Jacek

[email protected] 20th April 2014 09:55

Revise your knowledge of Density Altitude and how it affects the performance of your helicopter.

Find some internet information about visual illusions caused by lack of visual horizon.

Sharpen up your instrument flying - mountain flying is a visual/instrument balance because of the second point above.

Revise your meteorological knowledge, especially regarding wind (gradient, katabatic, anabatic etc)

Think about the air as a fluid - when faced with the mountain terrain, try to visualise how a large bucketful of water would swirl around the various features and be aware that the upwind feature will influence the wind's effects on any features close downwind.

Have a pre-planned escape route (low level) in case you are caught out by the weather, it's often very changeable in the mountains and going IMC in that environment is very scary!

Enjoy the view:ok:

Flyting 20th April 2014 18:47

here's something free
 
Good Aviation Practice (GAP) Booklets

Shawn Coyle 21st April 2014 17:48

crab:
Hate to be pedantic, but for turbines, it's not density altitude - PA +OAT is the correct answer, 9,000'PA and -40°C is the same DA as 2,000PA and +40°C.

[email protected] 21st April 2014 19:01

Shawn, I'm sure you are right but I wasn't just thinking engines, more along the lines of TR authority, lively Nr and high pitch angles for hovering OGE.

The rough guide to DA we have always used is DA = PA plus or minus 120T where T is the difference between ISA and the real world temperature in degrees C assuming a lapse rate of 2 deg/1000'. That gives 4560 and 5240 respectively for your examples.

However, the Easyweigh program we use for performance, using your figures, gives DAs of 4243' for 9000' -40 and 5244' for 2000' +40.

What calculation are you using?

topik22 22nd April 2014 06:04

Thanks a lot,
Jacek

Shawn Coyle 22nd April 2014 14:41

crab:
Rough order of magnitude calcs only to show turbine pilots that power available is not, repeat not, a function of density altitude.

DOUBLE BOGEY 23rd April 2014 07:05

Topik22 PM me with your email address and I will send you a Mountain Flying Guide.

DB


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