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RVDT 1st February 2011 11:52

EC145 ditching Ushuaia
 
EC 145 off "Octopus" gets wet.




NRDK 1st February 2011 13:01

145? might be 117 shown here perhaps.

Aircraft N245AF, Eurocopter Deutschland Gmbh MBB-BK 117 C-2 C/N 9322

FH1100 Pilot 1st February 2011 13:10

What Eurocopter calls a "Model 145" is really under the skin (and on the TC) just a modernized model 117 C-2. Kind of/sort of like Hughes did with the 369/500. Kind of.

spinwing 1st February 2011 13:20

Mmmmm .....

..... What Eurocopter calls a "Model 145" is really under the skin (and on the TC) just a modernized model 117 C-2. .....

So? ..... This one is still an EC 145 :rolleyes:

skadi 1st February 2011 13:42

A BK 117 C2 is known as a EC 145!

A, B and C1 are "normal" BK 117.

skadi

Aser 1st February 2011 14:03

Paul Allen's Antarctic crew has helicopter mishap - Bloomberg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...topusYacht.JPG

I wonder why they switched the Explorer for the 145

Regards
Aser

rotorrookie 1st February 2011 14:53


I wonder why they switched the Explorer for the 145
For more range, with the load they had on the MD the range was crap.

helihub 1st February 2011 16:24

He still owns his four Explorers, originally intended as one for each of his four boats.

Capt.Gonzo 1st February 2011 17:18


I wonder why they switched the Explorer for the 145
Because the EC 145 is the much better Helicopter!

Flying Bull 1st February 2011 17:39

Hi,
looks like they towed the bird in the first video
and looks like it had turned over on the second video.
Seems, someone has money to spare :-(
Best thing to do is to fill the inside, i.e. with a dinghy and attach other floating devices on the outside - so it wonīt flip over.
Then itīs time to think about, how to get it home and out of the water.

But they arenīt the first ones who screwed up - a navy I know dragged a ditched Lynx, so that ist submerged for ever.....

Greetings Flying Bull

Kulwin Park 1st February 2011 20:03

Is that an Explorer on front of the ship in above picture??

OvertHawk 1st February 2011 20:59

Yes - the photo above shows an Explorer on the Fwd deck ('76 on the back)

Phoinix 1st February 2011 21:02

Yes, clearly.

mfriskel 2nd February 2011 00:51

"Because the EC 145 is the much better Helicopter!"

Capt G- we all have our opinions now, don't we?

hoveratsix 2nd February 2011 02:12

Associated Press Report
 
' A helicopter crew had a slight mishap as it was preparing to pick up Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen for a trip to Antarctica'

A 'slight' mishap??:):rolleyes:

Hedge36 2nd February 2011 02:48

Well, it's all relative, you see. The flight crew's mishap was "slight" in comparison to the towing crew's "major" mishap in turning the ship turtle in tow.

hoveratsix 2nd February 2011 03:39

Good point, Hedge36! It has happened many times before with over-enthusiastic rescuers!!

OvertHawk 2nd February 2011 06:49

To be fair... The chances of successfully getting a helicopter out of the water, unless you happen to have a crane and a salvage crew immediately to hand are limited.

It's Hobson's choice - Either try to secure or tow it, in which case you stand a really good chance of turning it over (but keeping it at least), or leave it and wait for specialist help in which case it is likely to sink, or at least turn over, before specialist help is available.

There was a pretty fair swell there - i suspect that it would not have stayed upright or even afloat unaided for very long.

Damned if you do - damned if you don't

RVDT 2nd February 2011 07:52

Update from Dow Jones -


"At around 8:10 a.m. this morning [6:10 a.m. EDT] the helicopter took off and apparently hit an antennae on the yacht, forcing the pilots to land in the water," Hector Vera, an official in charge of the nearby coast guard station in the port of Ushuaia, said in a phone interview.

helihub 2nd February 2011 12:38

Salvage Rights
 
What are the salvage rules for floating helicopters? Does it become more likely to get involved in "salvage rights" laws if it isn't floating?


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