I couldn't identify this one!
 

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ZYBcar1900.jpg

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z.../G-AZYB900.jpg

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...YBhover900.jpg

Greenham Common Air Tattoo 1974....(are you sure this is the M4, Mildred?)

Might be wide of the mark here, but it looks like a 47H1 :O

She is indeed a 47H-1. More about G-AZYB in post 447 of this thread.

Griffo, your initial Bölkow shot has spawned a series of similar images (see post 1285 above)! :ok:

All the Bells (but no Whistles!)
 

Ah, Savoia, that's what happens when negatives lay 'unprinted' for nearly 40 years...I thought it was some kind of Enstrom....no excuse, either, I've been to the Weston Museum!....Pretty little helicopter....Italian styled, perhaps?
My neighbour from my Fifties schooldays in Heston took this shot of the Turriff Bell 47J there (1964ish)
Agusta-Bell 47J-2 Ranger, G-ASNV, Turriff Construction Ltd.

Does anybody in the rotary scene have other pics at Heston?....I know the CAA made a ceremonial JetRanger flight from Heston to Fairoaks when they vacated their Heston offices in the Seventies

A30yoyo:Actually yoyo, when I saw that pic the first thought that popped into my mind was:

Hyacinth: "Richard! Do be careful as there seems to be one of those dreadful eggbeaters off to your right. Sound your horn, dear."

Out of curiosity, what type of car is it? Either a Vauxhall or Ford I am sure.

Yes, not bad for her day. The 47 'H' model was Bell's attempt at a 'deluxe' version of the successful 'G' model. Features included an enclosed sound-proofed cabin which could accommodate one pilot and two passengers. The cabin had leather upholstery throughout as well as a leather covered instrument panel which grouped all the switches and carburetor controls. The enclosed metal monocoque tail boom contained a luggage compartment (unique for a Bell in those days). The craft was powered by a 200hp Franklin 6V4-200-C32AB engine.

Produced in 1955, Bell gave the 'H' model the name 'Bellairus' - she was intended for the executive market but .. sadly, though Bell did a good job of putting this bird together, it turned out to be too small for the job.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m...6/47HHenry.jpg
The 47 'Bellairus' with its enclosed monocoque tail boom

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-p...40/HMODELS.jpg
Newly produced 'H' models awaiting delivery

Ah no friend. If I were to post some of the earlier Italian rotary-wing designs I would have to go hide under a rock somewhere. I'm afraid it took a couple of decades before the post-war Italian depression began to lift to the point where morale was restored and we began to see the revival of that creative spirit for which Italy is now known.

However, not long after the introduction of the Bellairus Agusta did re-vamp a Bell design which became the Agusta 102. As with all Italian designs up to that point .. not especially attractive but functional and with (from what I understand) reasonable performance.

The aircraft was based on the mechanical components of a Bell 48 that Agusta incorporated into an all-new, streamlined fuselage. The first flight was on 3 February 1959 at Cascina Costa under the hand of then well-known Agusta test pilot Ottorino Lancia. The prototype was exhibited at that year's Paris Air Show in faux military colours.

Only two production examples were built, operated by Elivie in a regular air service between Turin and Milan from 1961. However, the advent of turbine-powered helicopters in the 1960s soon rendered the A102 obsolete.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g...Locarno_01.jpg
The A102 at Locarno Airport on 28th October 1960 (Quite what the sheep were doing grazing at the airfield I don't know but I suspect it was probably an arrangement between the airfield manager and a local farmer)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-R...ggianti_01.jpg
The float-equipped 102 I-AGUT

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-o...cockpit_01.jpg
The 102's panel

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-p..._AB-102_01.jpg
.. and cabin (which could accommodate 9 passengers)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-R...ell_48A_01.jpg
The 102 was developed from Bell's model 48A

(Photos: Mario Bazzani and the Agusta archives)

Quite extraordinary that you should mention this Yoyo because over on the Mann Thread we have just been discussing the craft in question which, as it happens, ended-up being bought by Noel Edmonds.

The event you refer to (the last official movement recorded at Heston Aerodrome) took place on 6th June 1978 in an Alan Mann JetRanger (described above) G-BWCN and which you can read about in post 89 of the Mann Thread.

I think it's a Vauxhall Victor FD. :8

Savoia...Some historic pictures of Bell 47's for your files. All are from the files of Redding Air Service, started by Burt Train in 1957. Unfortunately he passed back in 2005, but his company lives on. The company primarily is involved in the utility industry, and I was recently forwarded a photo from the USFS of Burt doing some of the first trials for bucket work. The Tail # is N988B, this number has since been transfered to one of our L4's.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...1957010942.jpg

Here are a bunch of pictures from the company history.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...History/01.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...History/02.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...nitydivide.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...istory/104.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...istory/206.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...istory/208.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...istory/209.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...istory/210.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...istory/311.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...istory/312.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...istory/401.jpg

This is our hangar which is still there---we have added onto it though:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...istory/404.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...istory/501.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...istory/504.jpg

More to follow...

Part two...

Here is one of our ongoing contracts---snow surveys for CA Dept. Of Water:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...istory/610.jpg

Same snow survey being done these days:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...istory/611.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...istory/607.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...opper-snow.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...umber-load.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...gger-pines.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...-bar-11-71.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...-Mt-Shasta.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...pper-river.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...ril-1962-a.jpg

And the man himself--Burt Train shortly before he passed:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...rt-923-042.jpg

I'd also say it's a Victor, but I'd go for the later FE :8

(The FD was a slightly prettier version with twin round headlights and a slight "coke bottle" hint to the rear of the bodyshell).

I'm very happy to stand corrected... I'm a tit man myself.

Victor FD or FE
 

see Victor photo post#1298....btw what limit is there on memory use on Photobucket?

Errm........ I can't remember. No, don't tell me - it'll come to me in a minute... Errr.. bu99er... it's no good.... it's gone.

Forget the Vauxhall, look at that lurvely Puma in the back ground; my old sqn too, by the looks of it. I think that was a Tiger Meet year, too.

Ah, yes - 1936... a lovely day too..

Well Wikipedia reckons its a Victor FE (a.k.a. Chevrolet Royale or inscrutably a Shinjin Record :))

Well, that's settled then.

Gordy - Queste sono Bellissime!

These are wonderful images with the Bell 47 being the industry's all-time universal classic. So many North American rotary-wing pioneers began their businesses with this craft .. the likes of Carl Brady (ERA) and Bob Suggs (PHI) and doubtless many others.

In Papua New Guinea (where I flew for a season) Rotorwork Helicopters began their activities with a 47 (Tony Karas was one of their early partners). I'm not sure which type Mal Smith began with, if not a 500 then it may well have been a 47 also.

Tell me, what age was the old boy in your image of him flying the 206?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1...1956%2520b.jpg
Agusta built 47's at one of Agusta's hangars c.1956

Mmmm ...

I do believe Mal Smith started Pacific Helicopters with (Ex Aussie Army mates) Peter Spoor and Roger Dundas in the early mid'70's with Hughes 500's ....

Mal I believe is still trying to run PNG (good luck with that Mal) Peter is enjoying life and Roger spends time 'Yachting' and 'stockmarketing' down in Melbourne ....

:}

Dare I mention... Fiat 7002? :}

It was one of a number of prototype helicopters I remember from 1960s editions of the Observers Book of Aircraft - the Piasecki Pathfinder and Filper Beta (which looked rather like the result of an illicit union between a Bond Bug and a CH-46!) are two others that have surfaced amidst my mind's flotsam.

That Bell 48/Agusta 102 does look a bit like an early and rather ill-defined Bell 204, any commonality?

You could .. but then I would have to start searching for a suitably large rock under which to crawl!

Bell/Agusta cooperation was exceptionally close at that time and the 204 was being developed when Agusta began their efforts on the 102 so, highly probable is my guess.

Spinwing, not sure what Malapropism (as I used to call him) is up to now, kind of disappointed he's not made PM yet!

However, from these photos (well after my time) he seems to be maturing nicely!

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-h...y%2520Ball.jpg
Mal with Barry Ball at 'Specific's' ;) Goroka hangar

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7...520Ketauwo.jpg
Mal 'The MP' handing over a donation (observe Mal's grief-stricken expression) to the Eastern Highlands School Boys President, Ellyson Ketauwo

Heston 'Last Flight' to Fairoaks
 

This shot of G-BCWN departing Heston 6 June 1978 was extracted from the CAA house newsletter. The old tower wasn't long for this world (demolition Dec78)
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...eston900-1.jpg

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rdowndec78.jpg

Mmmm ...


Cripes .... Barry Ball has put on a bit of 'condition' since I last saw him ...

Where's that Doberman of his ... probably off chasing a 'local' I'd guess ... (dog would have passed years ago I'd assume) ...

Ha ... those were the days ... :yuk:



Thought I'd heard a rumour that Mal became Governor of the EHP ???? :eek:

How unusual !!! :mad:

Cab rides for brown jobs
 

I believe the RAF called those in the British Army 'brown jobs' during WWII (probably laughably out-of-date slang, now) but how did helicopters become known as cabs in the British Army?
Westland Scout XV130 doing a bit of 'cabbing' at Heathrow 1972....US Army Kiowa 71-20449 on display in Europe 1974ish...both went onto civil registration
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z.../XV130a900.jpg


http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z.../XV130e900.jpg

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z.../XV130d900.jpg

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...-20449a900.jpg

Slang
 

I thought 'cab' was a Fleet AIr Arm Slang and that the Brown Jobs used the slang 'frames'. Which is probably a corruption of 'Picture Frame'...... no..... really?? 'airframes' ?? I didn't think that Pongos could spell words that long.

:}

Another of those aviation mysteries? Why 'cab' and when?

Hey Geoffers
This one can := (last week I couldn't spell ingineur, today I are one..........' :D:D - VFR

'Cabs' and 'Taxying'
 

Has 'why aircraft taxi?' been done on pprune? I got a bit further with that than with 'cabs'

Savoia

Welcome...

I believe he was 93. In his final years he did not fly by himself, but always liked to come along on jobs and he would take the controls frequently.

Wow! That's great. I always love seeing both ends of the spectrum .. the youngsters reaching ahead early on and the old boys sticking with it till the very end, great stuff! :ok:

Dennisimo I hope you're reading this .. you see you're still a spring chicken!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...Lynx%25201.jpg
A Lynx helicopter of 847 Naval Air Squadron lands on the snow covered deck of HMS Ocean during Exercise Cold Response, Northern Norway on 24th February 2010. 'Cold Response' was a NATO exercise hosted by the Norwegian armed forces. Nearly 2000 Royal Navy sailors, Royal Marines and soldiers took part with further support from the Royal Fleet Auxiliary

Did the non-Bristow Tigers look something like this?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-C...2520scheme.jpg
AS330E HC1 Puma of 230 Squadron seen at Upper Heyford on 4th September 1990 wearing the RAF's special 'Tiger' paintwork

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Z.../Wsx%25202.jpg
US Marine Corps pilot, Captain Bill Spicer, at the controls of a Royal Navy Wessex on board the commando carrier HMS Bulwark during a NATO training exercise (probably in the Mediterranean) in November 1969. Prior to being attached to No. 845 Squadron at Culdrose, Captain Spicer had previously flown operational sorties with the US Marine Corps in Vietnam

RE: Pic of the Scout in A30yoyo's post above: Heyyy, is that the same car from post 1298? That thing gets around!

Ah no FH1100 pilot that's a Morris Marina...an all British car :)....
launched in 1971 the model was facelifted somewhat desperately around 1980 by an Italian car stylist Giorgetto Giugaro's Italdesign Studio and it became the Morris ITAL, built in the UK until 1984
Morris Ital - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Back to JetRangers
 

G-AYMW was, I think, photographed at the RAF Finningley Air Display (1974 or it might have been 1976)...I believe this machine lived in Yorkshire back then

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z.../G-AYMW900.jpg

The paint scheme for Tiger Meets varied i.a.w. the fashion of the day, but yes.

I last flew that airframe, XW224 on Sep 30th, 1983.

The crewman on that occasion later went on to be a first officer on Concorde. :ok:

Yoyo, well done with AYMW .. another 'A' reg 206 added to our collection! :ok:

Will write-up something about her during the week.

Savoia....You've already got a small photo of G-AYMW on p31 of this thread while it was with B.E.A.S ...I'll try to date mine more precisely...an external search in google 'G-xxxx Jetranger pprune' finds the relevant page in this thread nicely

Fascinating color vintage pathe film of London Waterloo to Heathrow airport air taxi service in S55s......

http://bps.britishpathe.com/hls-vod/...01157.mp4.m3u8

I'd not heard of Doman Helicopters, but this photo intrigued me: 1953 first flight and lifting 1800lbs on a 400hp Lycoming!

http://aviationhumor.net/wp-content/...Jokes-0069.jpg

http://www.aviastar.org/foto/doman_d-10b.jpg

Its a flying Bug:cool: