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Apate 23rd August 2016 19:55

Of course :ok:

rainbrave 25th August 2016 19:48

Hello Maeroda,

These details are welcome. Thank you so much..

myassisgrass 5th September 2016 10:32

Removal or Partial Removal of AW139 FIPS

Can anyone help with subject?

maeroda 5th September 2016 12:32

What is the question?

edetroit 7th September 2016 21:35

May I ask a technical question about the AW139 here?. At what altitude does the tape rad alt disappear from the PFD to be replaced by a digital rad alt readout and then at what altitude does the digital rad alt disappear please?

regards

Ed

Harry the Hun 7th September 2016 23:00

Tape from 0 to 500 feet,
Digital up to 2500 feet.

edetroit 7th September 2016 23:12

Digital up to 2500 feet may be correct but I do not think the tape up to 500 is. Just seen a photo of the real thing flying with the rad alt at 600 ft with tape still showing.

I'm thinking rad tape up to 1000 or 1500ft.

Nescafe 7th September 2016 23:27

From the phase 7 notes

Tape in view <1100' and removed >1100'
Digital readout <2500' and >1100', removed >2500'

edetroit 7th September 2016 23:57

Thank you very much Nescafe!

Have a lovely evening.

Geoffersincornwall 3rd December 2016 08:51

AW139 Training Blog
 
For those that are unaware I run a blog at Sim Trainer ? Sim Trainer where you can read some interesting stuff and air your views about them if you feel the need. Drop by and have your say.

G. :ok:

5kyd1v3r 5th December 2016 10:50

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5kyd1v3r 5th December 2016 10:56

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For myassisgrass

Pontius Pirate 15th February 2017 23:03

TQ Limiter
 
Anyone out there fly with the TQ Limiter on all the time? Please don't say "Yes, because I don't want to bust any Limits!"...heard that one and nearly spat my cornflakes out ffs!

Mark Six 16th February 2017 01:21

It is standard procedure with at least one EMS operator in Australia to fly with torque limiter on. No doubt all the "experts" will now tell me why they shouldn't.

HLCPTR 16th February 2017 01:31

What I would like to hear is why they believe they should fly with it ON.

dangermouse 16th February 2017 03:55

Well if the Tq limiter is for AEO ops, why not? it will be there to prevent pilots abusing the operational ratings and subsequent maintenance/lifing issues, I assume that in an OEI condition it is not there and at some point AEO with rotor drooped against the limiter it also disappears to give you all the power you need after you have got yourself into a position you shouldn't have.

DM

BaronG 16th February 2017 04:28

I'm curious exactly what criteria causes the TQ Limiter to auto-disengage? Is it really just an NR trigger? I haven't found anywhere that clearly says what causes it to disengage.

I don't have the RFM to hand at the moment, but I think the training text just says it will disengage if an actual engine failure is detected.

So the scenario I'm imagining is an engine run down or reduced power output (but not full flame out) shortly after TDP. If the TQ limiter doesn't drop out, it could be a bad moment to limit the power available from the remaining engine.

BG.

Nescafe 16th February 2017 04:44


Well if the Tq limiter is for AEO ops, why not?
Because you might need to pull through the flight manual limits in hurry!Imagine a poorly executed MAUW rig departure on a hot day with no wind-I'd rather over torque than get wet feet.


I'm curious exactly what criteria causes the TQ Limiter to auto-disengage
OEI will disengage the Tq limiter, but the exact point of disengagement-not sure.

Non-PC Plod 16th February 2017 07:35

Dangermouse,

It doesn't disengage if you are AEO. The Nr just keeps on drooping.
The Tq limiter is designed for use when OEI training. If you screw up and droop the Nr too low, the OEI training switch kicks back automatically to the centre, and bang! you have full power very quickly. Without the torque limiter, you could put huge stresses into the gearbox.
I can't imagine why you would want Tq limiter other than for OEI training, but I am aware that some people do use it as a routine. Doh!

griffothefog 16th February 2017 13:16


Originally Posted by Non-PC Plod (Post 9677731)
Dangermouse,

It doesn't disengage if you are AEO. The Nr just keeps on drooping.
The Tq limiter is designed for use when OEI training. If you screw up and droop the Nr too low, the OEI training switch kicks back automatically to the centre, and bang! you have full power very quickly. Without the torque limiter, you could put huge stresses into the gearbox.
I can't imagine why you would want Tq limiter other than for OEI training, but I am aware that some people do use it as a routine. Doh!

Used it hot n high for sling work (8-10,000) as the load weights given were a farce most of the time when the labourers just kept filling the nets... and filling.... and filling... oomph 😜


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