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Outwest 29th November 2011 06:52

OK, I'm not going to be dragged back into this.......

I was simply confirming that there was indeed another occurrence.

Shell Management 1st December 2011 17:24

So they have been tested then (before they were 'tested' in service).

Variable Load 1st December 2011 21:06

SM,

You need to ask AW yourself if you want an answer you can trust. I did :E

AW139 Engineer 1st December 2011 21:40

AW139 Engineer
 
The latest news is a single float deployed / not all 4 as expected / the float control panel is the primary suspect not the pilot / deployment was at 150 knots and the bag is in good shape.

Outwest 2nd December 2011 00:54

Not sure where you are getting your info from Engineer, but you are misinformed. A single "bottle" fired, but all 4 bags inflated. That I can confirm as I seen the a/c in question myself.

Deployment was at 140 kts, not 150.

Bags were in good shape after the fact.

139GoM 8th December 2011 13:07

If CHC has to file some type of official report where could I find it?

Geoffersincornwall 8th December 2011 14:33

Mandatory Occurrence Reporting
 

MORs are usually raised in the following circumstances:

In the event of a hazardous situation occurring
In the event that a hazardous situation would occur unless corrective was taken
Whenever the reported believes that there is a safety operational, maintenance or airworthiness-related issue that should be investigated by the CAA.
I believe that a Quarterly Digest of MoRs is published but not sure how a non-AOC holder gets access to that.

G.

cayuse365 17th December 2011 18:57

They should check the cannon plugs for the wipers and floats as they can be reversed.

helimutt 18th December 2011 07:20

It would be filed in the CHC SQID system.

vfr440 18th December 2011 07:40

CAA Occurrence Reports
 
Geoffers
I get mine in an e-mail from CAA. You register with CAA (FOC) and check all the boxes you wish to receive auto-e-mails about. The Occurrence Reports are 'hidden' in the link to Safety Information. If you click it there are 2 x pdf files to choose. One is the Safety info digest (around 200Kb) and the smaller one is the occurrence listing which includes all small planks, but the rotary wing section is at the end before balloons.

Give it a try :ok:- VFR

3D CAM 18th December 2011 19:51

c365.
I don't doubt your info but surely if either system had been worked on, then the next step for the engineers would be to check that it worked as advertised.:confused:
3D

Aser 23rd December 2011 17:50

AW139M
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...82473841_o.jpg

Regards
Aser

ODEN 27th December 2011 20:01

Type rating
 
Hi all 139 drivers.

Could you please give me some facts on how long your type rating on the AW139 was before your skill test.

All the same hours with an approved typerating course, or different depending on operator and country?

SIM hours and actual hours please.

Thank you in advance.

Arcal76 27th December 2011 21:28

AW139 training.
 
We had a one week ground school and 2 weeks on the SIM in Whippany, 25 hours on the left seat and 25 hours on the right seat (Flying seat) before doing the check ride and it looks just enough to get use to all profile and system available on this machine.You are still looking for your "marks" the first week you fly the real machine and after it is OK.It looks complicated but in reality it is not so hard.It is important to know all systems and the QRH.

HLCPTR 27th December 2011 22:10

You received a custom eight-day ground school (due to the pre-class CBT you did). The usual ground school is ten work days.

Simulator time depends on client/country. The normal minimum is 20 hours PIC. An additional 20 hours SIC if you have a training partner.

outhouse 28th December 2011 11:19

10 days GS, *Simulator and Aircraft as per JAR FCL *2 dependant on if you are MCR or First Rating. *Skill test 2 hrs for IFR and VFR course on the sim, Enjoy. Back into my hole.:}

ODEN 28th December 2011 13:47

Thank you for your answers.

Outhouse

Simulator and Aircraft as per JAR FCL *2
Does the JAR FCL state any minimum hours for training?

Reg

outhouse 29th December 2011 11:49

Well if ageing memory serves.
First MP rating VFR. *Minimum approved flight instruction 10 hrs. Not including the skill test.
If using a approved FSTD. 12 hrs total, minimum 6 hrs in aircraft. Plus 1 hour skill test, can be completed in simulator if approved.

MP to MP. VFR Rating. Minimum approved flight instruction 5 hrs. Not including skill test.
If using approved FSTD. Minimum 7 hrs, minimum 2 hrs in aircraft. Skill test as above.

IFR, MINIMUM 5 hrs, using a FSTD 2 hrs in aircraft 3 in the sim. Plus 1 hr skill test. Aircraft or sim as above.



Have fun, if memory failed sure will be corrected.

Regards O.:ok:

bogey@6 30th December 2011 09:18

2 weeks ground course, 8hrs Sim, 2hrs aircraft, 1hr skills test.

check the new syllabus that's coming out.. everything seems to be abbreviated into modules on the new one..

ODEN 1st January 2012 12:15

Hi, is there anyone out there who could give some information on how the anti/de-ice system is working (if it is reliable, any problems) on the 139? I mean anyone with experience using it in icing conditions?
Is it approved in the FM for flights in known icing (light)?


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