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tottigol 19th March 2010 14:33

Perhaps the southern sector to replace the underperforming 155s on the Shell contract?

chcoffshore 19th March 2010 14:51

Ok if Shell want to pay extra for them, but you also have smaller decks with 5.3T limits aswell.

Bilbo Bagover 20th March 2010 08:36

AW139 CofG Spreadsheet
 
Does anybody have a cofg spreadsheet for a VIP 139. Looking for the usual info on how far the average corporate machine will go with various pax loads.

Many thanks
Bilbo

copterdr76 22nd March 2010 12:28

AW139 Mandatory BT 139-187 Rev. B
 
Anyone experienced any lag damper rod ends breaking torque ?

AW139 Engineer 22nd March 2010 14:08

Yes I had 2 dampers that were found below minimum torque spec at the eye end and thus were eligible for the mandatory FPI. Both passed FPI no problem and were reinstalled. Make sure you note this check in your CHR.

AW139 Engineer 22nd March 2010 14:22

AW139 CofG Spreadsheet
 
I don't think you will need a spreadsheet, with a 12 place Factory VIP SEI interior you can still fill the tank and be within limits. Most other VVIP interiors limit the number of seats so with fewer seats (6-7) on board so I do not see a problem in terms of range. Be aware some of the VIP interiors available are really nice and luxurious but come with a price in terms of added weight and reduced maintaince accessability. If your talking about a short nose with a aux fuel tank and a very heavy interior that is a different story, you will likely be aft C oF G with the aux fuel tank filled.

froggy_pilot 23rd March 2010 03:04

139 CofG

Stupid question you ask.

Short nose ? long nose ? aux fuel tank ? which VIP config ? empty wheight ? :confused:

You can do CofG calculations in about 5 minutes with flight manual and a basic calculator, you don't need a spreadsheet for that. :E

Forget you computer and go back to basics, I have seen many pilots trusting blindly a spreasheet full of errors :ugh:

Bilbo Bagover 23rd March 2010 11:14

Thanks for your constructive opinion Froggy. Really helpful!

I don’t have a flight manual, therefore the easiest way to get 90% of the information I need is to use an existing spreadsheet and modify it for my requirements.

I could ask a hundred questions about seat stations, fuel tanks etc but actually what I was after was a very rough idea on loading and range of a typical Short nose, 8 seat config VIP 139. Simple really…

Bilbo

froggy_pilot 23rd March 2010 13:36

Ok, here is some help

The main problem is aft CG, I am flying a short nose with 12 or 15 seats offshore config,

For 2 pilots without passengers and cargo we are limited to 1150 kg of fuel to stay within limits on takeoff.

If you need some more figures, I will send you stations for pilots, front row,rear row, fuel and luggage

Bilbo Bagover 23rd March 2010 14:18

Thanks Froggy, that would be useful.
Bilbo

WhoKnows?? 23rd March 2010 15:50

Froggy, the short nose that I fly also has 15 seats offshore config and can take 1500kg fuel for max. aft C of G with two pilots and nil pax/cargo. Quite a significant difference!

CopterDokter 23rd March 2010 20:23

copterdr76, aw139-engineer
 
Why, yes, my location here today found one damper, lost torque on jam nut--
removed from a/c, will inspect for damage to (both) threads, as per mfg--
installed new damper -- will need to investigate as to 'why' torque was lost--
found on daily insp, tech noted that barrel vs. rod end had vertical play --:ok:

Aser 3rd April 2010 11:07

Gulf 139 report is out... :rolleyes:

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/6606/a7ghc.jpg


Best regards, fly safe and take care in your landings :E
Aser

9Aplus 3rd April 2010 12:29

I am not happy with conclusions..... but we are (still) not operator of AW139 :}

blakmax 6th April 2010 13:20

Is the report publicly available?
 
I'd really like to review the report to see how they deduced their findings before making further comments.

Anyone have a link to the report or prepared to send a copy by PM?

Regards

blakmax

copterdr76 7th April 2010 12:32

Update on results of TB 139-187 Rev A
 
Just an update. I had 4 of the 5 Dampers break at the minimum. Serial numbers 1601, 1602, 1605 and 1606. Serial number 1604 was OK. All 4 passed NDT, installed New Broached Ring and reinstalled. :ok:

S.M.S 9th April 2010 05:49

DCL Mode
 
DCL Mode in phase 5 any idea why the A/C devited to the right during ILS App :confused:

tottigol 9th April 2010 13:58

Was it before DH or during the ALVL phase on the RWY?

Turkeyslapper 9th April 2010 15:01

Ours do the same...before DH. Deviation in our case isn't a long way out to the right and certainly stays within tolerances for the approach.

S.M.S 9th April 2010 16:13

DCL Mode
 

Was it before DH or during the ALVL phase on the RWY?
NO before the DH, you can see from about 10nm the a/c will to the right !!!


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