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noooby 28th November 2007 09:28

Only Agusta? Hawker Pacific should be able to get them for you, or Aviall. Make sure there is nothing in your purchase contract that says you have to purchase all your parts from Agusta. There shouldn't be though. As long as the tyre has the same P/N as specified in the IPD (DR9837T) you are good to go. That P/N is a Dunlp P/N, and is readily available at aircraft tyre retailers. It should work out cheaper for you too. As I said though, make sure you're not voiding any parts supply contracts you may have with Agusta.
For K1W1 land, try Flightline, or Airwork as well as Hawk Pac and Aviall. And don't worry about spare nosewheel tyres, you won't need them for a looooong time. Best thing to do for your mains, is to have a spare set built up in stores. Instead of frigging around flipping the tyres to even out the wear, change the whole wheel, then you can flip the tyres in your workshop at your leisure, and put those wheels back into stock. If you have extended taxiing to do, pickup and hover taxi to save the tyres. Until Agusta fix the geometry stuff up that they made with the axles, that is the best that you can do. And carry a couple of Rotor Brake Actuators too. They don't like the heat in the compartment where they live, and are continually crapping out. An 'improved' actuator is supposed to be released soon.

jet_kay 28th November 2007 11:07

one year ago We tried to get the tyres from other dealers but we couldnt, even we talked to Dunlop and in their catalogs there is no such P/N, i think Agusta has the exclusivity of selling them did it changed now???.

Anyway while waiting for the tyres from Agusta as they didnt had in their stock we installed Goodyear, same ply rates and much more speed, really very good tyres, they lasted double and half price, the only problem they r not certified and we couldnt get authorization to install them instead of the DUNLOP.

SO BUY A LOT OF SPARE TYRES YOULL NEED THEM :-)

noooby 28th November 2007 14:48

Hmmm, the plot thickens!! They definitely show in the online Dunlop catalogue, and I can even add them to my shopping cart. It wants company info and the like to get an online quotation, and I don't think my company would appreciate my efforts if I did that :}, so I did the next best thing, I have emailed them asking for price and availability direct from Dunlop, and a list of resellers. We'll see what they come back with.

Aser 28th November 2007 23:28

We are expecting the new long nose,dual hoist,flir, sar modes for AP etc.etc.etc. next week (i've seen a picture of them in Casina) :rolleyes:

Now, some of the "work in progress" we have got here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwl7XhDssXA
http://stage6.divx.com/user/asermart...1484/139-hoist
http://stage6.divx.com/user/asermart...831432/139-khv
http://stage6.divx.com/user/asermart...438/139-pasada


Best regards
Aser

heliski22 29th November 2007 05:59

aser

I saw that the other day in Vergiate. Pardon my ignorance, but what's with the dual hoist?

noooby 29th November 2007 19:35

I didn't think Dunlop were that STOOOPID!!!
 
A reply from Agusta. AB139Engineer was right. That is frickin dumb. They are working on it, and they also have a fix for the rotor brake actuators. Here is part of the answer I received from Agusta:

"At present date only Dunlop tyres P/N DR9837T and P/N DR8941T have been qualified for the AB139/AW139, both on the same rating.

We are already evaluating the opportunity to qualify a different vendor for the same loads and ply rating (10 PR), but I do not have a forecasted date for this action at the moment. Any qualified alternative for the future will however be included in the IPD as soon as approved.

Regarding alternative Dunlop Aircraft Tyre resellers, our Spares department confirms that Agusta is the sole distributor for these tyres. According to our commercial agreements with the Vendor they can not be purchased from other Dunlop Aircraft Tyre resellers".



So, they are saying that they are working on other vendor tyres. The 9837T is the original tyre for the mainwheel. the 8941T is and "improved" tyre that has a different cross section, and is supposed to last longer. Haven't seen one yet, we still have about a dozen of the old style to get through first!

AB139engineer 7th December 2007 04:33

Nooby, is there a Lead Acid conversion yet for the AW139 Main battery?
Our marathon Ni cad is crap after 2 years of service.

Aser 7th December 2007 23:34

Finally!
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...C-KLNAW139.jpg
The two machines will arrive Spain next week.
Sadly I'll be off-duty :*

noooby 8th December 2007 16:12

Hi AB139Engineer,

I don't think Agusta have done a Lead Acid conversion. I'd love to see one though. I hate Nicad's, they are so much more labour intensive compared to good old lead acid!
I walked past your hanger yesterday. Should have called in, but didn't know if anybody would know who to ask for if I asked for you by your pprune handle :)

AB139engineer 11th December 2007 03:29

Go to Agar hanger Nooby and ring the door buzzer, there is only one AB139 Engineer there!

noooby 11th December 2007 16:47

No worries dude. I'm tied up for the next few days, but I'll try and get out there sometime

indrek 11th December 2007 17:10

Agusta in Iran
 
Does anyone knows if any Agusta 139 is flying in Iran? (Offshore, what kind of firm-backround)

jonnyloove 11th December 2007 17:11

Chc Mca 139
 
Evening Ladies and Gents

Just a quick question. Is there any news off the 139s for CHC for the MCA contract or pics they must be finishing up soon?

Thank you all :)

AB139engineer 12th December 2007 04:44

nooby I am leaving for Italy in 4 days to get the second machine:ok:

whiskeytangofox 12th December 2007 06:49

139 Factory Pilot Course.
 
Am due to attend the factory course early next year and was wondering if anyone can comment on where to stay, or places to eat or visit during my time there.
Also what sort of daily money one would need to survive.

Any other useful info much appreciated.

Thx

AB139engineer 14th December 2007 04:08

Contact Agusta as they have a list of hotels and the rates vary, if your bringing your laptop make sure your choice has reliable internet, preferably high speed. Sesto Calende is nice and is walking distance to the training center, Arona to the north is also nice but is a larger community, and you will need a car.
Both have train stations if you wish to explore Italy on the weekends.

faded one side 15th December 2007 17:14

Places to stay
 
whiskeytangofox
I was over doing my annual this autumn. I stayed at the "Hotel Tre" Re. Piazza Garibaldi 25 - Sesto Calende - 21018 ...
A very nice, and slightly unusual hotel in the Piazza. Easy walk to Agusta. The hotel David is even closer, but right on the main road into town and by the roundabout / traffic circle. Our company uses both, but personaly I would go for the Tre.
The daily cost will be relative to your currncy of course, but if you are earning USD, then a hundred bucks a day should be enough, unless you like a lavish time. Dinner is about 25-30 Euro. Don't bother with a car. The trains are great for inter city travel, and every where else you just walk
(like the Italians). Have fun. :cool:
FOS

heliski22 15th December 2007 18:08

WTF

Tre Re is the one to get if you can, booked up well in advance so call straight away +39 0331 924229. Family run affair, they'll look after you well. During ground school, facilities are good, but if you're doing Sim training out of hours, bear in mind that it's impossible to get somewhere to eat before 7 or 7.30 in the evening or outside lunch hours.

Some guys take apartments locally and cater for themselves, might suit you better.

Up to yourself about transport, if you're a road head, then wheels are a must - I personally couldn't be that near those mountains and not be able to drive up there!!!!!

Despite the criticisms, you'll find all aspects of the training are quite well structured with good content prepared by a bunch of people who are interested in the level of knowledge you acquire, both in the classroom and in the Sim or flightline. It's constantly developing so it's somewhat different now than it was in the early days, particularly in the Sim.


You won't be a walking expert after it all, but you'll have enough to build a solid foundation for yourself upon which you can build once you get flying the line.

Above all - enjoy!!

CS-Hover 16th December 2007 21:46

RFM Section 2/5/6
 
Hi

does any body have RFM Section 2/5/6 in digital format, that could show me? :O Need for some W&B/Performance calculations Paco's excel style

thanks

heliski22 18th December 2007 22:09

Hey Aser!

How do you guys get the carpet and speeches and stuff? We ferried ours out of there this morning and all anybody could think of was getting the hell in out of the cold!!


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