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SARREMF 19th August 2008 13:02

Well said

Now thats more like it!

Crabb, Bootneck, play nice!

Senior Pilot 20th August 2008 23:15

SARH to go???????
 
Last I looked, the thread title is SARH to go???????

Not "let's attack each other and get personal" :=

thorpey 21st August 2008 08:28

Enough
 
Thank god for that SP, this thread has got very tiresome, seems to be the same everytime SAR is mentioned!

MyTarget 17th September 2008 13:05

Just heard via the smoke signals..............one of the big players has pulled out of the bid!:eek:

leopold bloom 17th September 2008 13:11

Your Target
 
Congratulations, 5 minutes from official announcement and it's on Prune.:ok:

Pink Panther 17th September 2008 13:28

So, who is it ?:}

leopold bloom 17th September 2008 13:45

UK Air Rescue:{

Pink Panther 17th September 2008 14:26

Really :eek:

SARREMF 17th September 2008 14:49

Yep, withdrawn from SAR-H competition.

[email protected] 17th September 2008 14:54

So was this because the Merlin was too expensive once the 12 base option was selected?

How much has this bid actually cost the companies?

Spanish Waltzer 17th September 2008 15:37

Could someone just remind those of us not quite so in the know who this now leaves in the running (including the companies and/or proposed aircraft involved in any consortia)? Thank you
SW

leopold bloom 17th September 2008 15:51

Still in the race
 

Could someone just remind those of us not quite so in the know who this now leaves in the running (including the companies and/or proposed aircraft involved in any consortia)? Thank
CHC with the S92/AW139 combo and LM/VT with EC225/AW139 as far as I know. :ok:

detgnome 17th September 2008 20:22

Anybody (SARREMF perhaps) care to shed some light on the reasons behind Bristows/AW withdrawl from the SARH bid?

Bets on CHC getting it now? Will it turn out to be a poison chalice of a contract?

leopold bloom 17th September 2008 20:41

Money, money, money.
 

Anybody (SARREMF perhaps) care to shed some light on the reasons behind Bristows/AW withdrawl from the SARH bid?

Bets on CHC getting it now? Will it turn out to be a poison chalice of a contract?
A straightforward commercial decision according to what I heard, it's not an earner. I wouldn't discount LM/VT too quickly, they are big organisations with considerable financial resources and some novel ideas.

Pink Panther 17th September 2008 21:37

Has there been a press release by UK air rescue in relation to them pulling out of the SARH bid.:confused:

SARREMF 18th September 2008 02:05

Yes.

Why would I shed light on why Bristow, SERCO, FBH and AW decided to pull out? But If I were to speculate, I think Leopard Bloom has it about right.

leopold bloom 18th September 2008 07:17

Saremf
 

Leopard Bloom
You've changed my spots!:=

[email protected] 18th September 2008 07:46

So that leaves aircraft which don't have the range/capacity to match the Sea King. So much for 'no lesser capability'!

What else will be compromised and fudged as this competition for a contract, which still has to prove itself value for money, pushes on to its rather protracted conclusion?

Whilst the casualty doesn't care what colour helicopter comes to the rescue, they might be concerned that contractual shortcomings and compromises might mean that no-one comes at all because a reduction in capability was accepted at risk.

Spanish Waltzer 18th September 2008 08:08


Whilst the casualty doesn't care what colour helicopter comes to the rescue, they might be concerned that... no-one comes at all because a reduction in capability was accepted at risk.
...and the difference between this and using ageing Sea Kings with increasingly poor unserviceability rates is what exactly?

Oh and before you say it... Carson blades and a new gearbox are not the gold plated solution to the causes of all unserviceabilities - ask the Navy.

turningnburning 18th September 2008 11:31

unfortunately its official
 
yes the worst fears are proved right - UK Air Rescue have pulled out of SAR-H - just months before deselection to 2 final bids it has been 'realised' by the UK AR team that the contract will not turn a profit.

formal announcement due today/ tomorrow am.

this now leaves the real fear that CHC/ Thales will become he front runner - argggghhh! IPT - you have been warned. :mad:

tnb


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