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manfromuncle 5th February 2008 07:43

How many pilots are going to have to attend this? Must be hundreds? Sounds like they need a massive venue.

Why cant they just post it on-line? make a video of the lecture and stick it on youtube? Save us all a day in lost wages and petrol money.

misbourne 5th February 2008 07:57

The brief is great but only if its your first time. Things dont change much for old timers and like most of these events briefings once you have got up at 5 am driven 150 miles only to hear "things are the same as last year" by the time you have driven 150 miles home you wish you hadnt of bothered

Helinut 5th February 2008 07:58

Tis absurd but that is aviation in the UK, I am afraid..........

The only helicopter they like is one with its rotor blades removed

plus expenses 5th February 2008 09:16

It is my understanding that this has been proposed because of the poor flying standards at Silverstone 2007. As I was cut up twice by the same company (who were later hauled into ATC for a chat) I have some symapthy, but I am not convinced that this is the way forward.

A more practical solution to me would run along the lines of:

1. All Chief Pilots/ Senior Pilot to attend
2. All pilots who haven't flown in before to attend
3. All pilots of Non UK registered aircraft have to attend
4. Pilots who haven't attended the brief have to sign for receiving a brief (including details of who briefed by). This is returned to Silverstone ATC (as per Cheltenham)
5. Any pilot who misbehaves on the day is held until all other helis have left and invited for a chat with Feds on Monday with their Chief Pilot.

heli_ben 20th February 2008 12:36

Silverstone
 
What are the restrictions for Silverstone on race weekend?

Can PPL(H)'s go in?

Thanks,

HB

Bravo73 20th February 2008 13:19


Originally Posted by heli_ben (Post 3925137)
What are the restrictions for Silverstone on race weekend?

Lots and lots. For starters, you will have to attend the obligatory brief.



Originally Posted by heli_ben (Post 3925137)
Can PPL(H)'s go in?

Yep. But IIRC, on race day (ie Sunday) you have to be on the ground quite early. Something like 8am. The practice days are a bit more relaxed.


HTH

plus expenses 21st February 2008 04:46

As the person who originally started the thread, it is only fair to say that I have had it confirmed that the CAA are not insisting that every pilot attend a pilots brief.

This requirement has come from Silverstone itself and the CAA were wrongly/unfairly included in the original email.

FloaterNorthWest 21st February 2008 07:23

Plus Expenses,

Agree with most of your list apart from number 3. Think it should be all non-UK pilots and not all pilots of non-UK Aircraft that should attend.

There are a lot of very experienced Silverstone pilots fly N and M reg aircraft.

FNW

scooter boy 21st February 2008 08:08

"What are the restrictions for Silverstone on race weekend?

Can PPL(H)'s go in?"

Sure you can Pilot Ben.
Provided you are happy to vicariously give the diminutive, gorgeous-wifed, mop headed and already adequately wealthy Mr Bernie Eccles-cakes approx £500.
This massive amount does not even include entry to the grand prix!!!!!

I choose not to pay these extortionate rates!

Turweston is my HLS of choice for IIRC £10 or so. No mandatory briefing although there is an AIS that you can self brief with on the internet.
Take a folding bike or moped and make the trip to Silverstone at your leisure saving the (equally outrageous) £80pp 4x4 x-c transfer from Turweston to Silverstone and you will miss the traffic and get to the race a wealthier, healthier man.

If you take the Mrs she will undoubtedly admire your frugality, enjoy the exercise and be happy to spend the £490 saving on shoes etc... thus working further in your favour and against the dark forces of daylight robbery that pervade Formula 1.

PM me for more info on budget grand prix.

SB

JimBall 21st February 2008 12:30

Only in the UK......... can you fly across the world's busiest international airport at 500ft "crossing behind the landing Singapore 747", "holding at the taxiway", "are you visual with the taxiing BA 747 ?"

Only in the UK........we don't trust you to land at a dedicated heliport, operated for over 20 years, where you will have no conflicts with FW in the middle of an old airfield in the middle of nowhere. Even if you've flown into this event 100 times in the past, you must forego a day's wages and attend a briefing onsite.

Somebody please see some sense. A Flash Player briefing browser, a downloaded docs pack and then a random-generated individual password which will release your slot number only after you've read and acknowledged every document.

It is that simple. And it's safer because despite the "signing on" requirement, there is still no proof that the signer has paid any attention.

Wake up SilverSTONE AGE!

Bladecrack 21st February 2008 20:40

Hello all,


Where do I register to attend the brief?

BC

notar 22nd February 2008 17:55

Do I need a briefing to fly into the briefing:rolleyes:

Brilliant Stuff 23rd February 2008 18:27

No.

I flew into Silverstone when it was celebrating 35 years of the Mini. I was briefed on the phone plus some paperwork in the post.

albatross 24th February 2008 04:16

Thread Drift
 
I would like to see the changes if the Siverstone folks were to organize the Oshkosh fly in this year.:E

http://www.airventure.org/2008/flying/index.html

:ok:

CRAZYBROADSWORD 29th March 2008 19:28

it does seem a bit daft as last year the only problem I saw and I had 7 trips in and out was some realy bad flying in the hold by one EC120 which was up and down from 1200 to 2200 on each lap, and I dont think a brief will stop that.

I think it should be a must for peeps who have not been in before and for one person from each outfit intending to go.

oh and could people stop calling north point half a mile before they get there cheers xx

EESDL 29th June 2008 16:01

stop calling North Point half a mile before they get there.....
 
......will now mean that pilots will call 1 mile before they get there.....
off to fill tank up for the journey south for briefing.....
if they say "Not much different from last year" or words to that affect I will make out an invoice then and there for my time, trouble and expense.....

ShyTorque 29th June 2008 19:28

Briefed myself this year.

Avoid all problems. Don't go. Thank you.

500e 29th June 2008 20:57

Well that link seems to cover most eventualities albatross, perhaps we should get them to organise the GP as well, how many aircraft & helio movements do they have over the show?

EESDL 1st July 2008 19:08

............and that ladies and gentlemen was Mandatory............

Bladecrack 1st July 2008 19:31

Where do you go if you are flying into the south area to park up and you arent watching the race?


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