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Smike 14th May 2007 12:32

Heli ATPL Europe
 
Hi there,

I´m most likely starting it after the summer here in Spain but, i´m a bit worried bout the quality of schools ...so i was wondering what are the best heli schools out there before i just spend a singlee pennie...;o)

Thanks in advance,
Smike

Smike 15th May 2007 12:36

Anyone that can bring some light into this? i know i´m just a noob though..;o)

Cheers!

scruggs 15th May 2007 13:10

Hi mate,

Sorry I can't help you with the info you're after. I know this is the professional training forum, but it may be worth a shot posting over in Rotorheads too.

Cheers,
S

Whirlygig 15th May 2007 13:22

A search on Rotorheads will give you more than enough information. You don't say whether you are looking for a ground school or flight school, integrated or modular, JAA or FAA and what sort of budget you have.

Cheers

Whirls

Vertolot 15th May 2007 14:49

smike,

Depends a what your plan is, make sure you get the courses you need i.e. integrated course/modular course. You might want to do for example all the ATPL-theory or only CPL and then add a IR or FI to that...

Check with the school that all the courses that you are going to attend are approved under there TRTO/FTO, specially check that they are helicopter courses. Also, check then with the Authority that the courses you are attending are approved.

Don't pay all the course in advance, pay as you go! (the theory courses you might have to pay up in front thou).

Good Luck!

Smike 15th May 2007 18:02

Hey all, thx for the feedback...a lot information missing...sorry my bad!

Right, i´m looking for an integrated course with IR included. I guess it should be JAA in first place to work here in the UE? or...

The spanish school i told you about were offering this on their integrated: CPL,IR, ATPL theory, MCC, R22 and Ecureuil AS355 Ht´s. This was the only school that had a biturbine...

The FI seems like a logical step to do some flight time...how many hours a day does a FI do?

Again, thx!

Whirlygig 15th May 2007 18:12

Not many integrated course providers in the UK; I can only think of Cabair at the moment. Oxford no longer do helicopter training.

The moduluar route will be more flexible and it what most people choose even if they are doing it full-time.

Cheers

Whirls

Helisweet 15th May 2007 18:12

Ifr Spain
 
Try this WEB: www.extracrew.com with information about all schools I would suggest you Aeromadrid, as the safer and serious one. I mean safer because there are schools like Aerea with a three accidents a year rate...

Smike 15th May 2007 18:23

Aha...so do u think doing CPL and then IR would be a better route? i was thinking a bit like..."well do as much as you can so u look a bit more attractive" but, maybe its a bit nonsense paying all that money from the early beggining...?

I know this is not an easy busyness and a big investment so i´m thinking bout everything twice..;o)...I´ll be speaking to a family friend who is already a pilot to get some info bout everything so i can have a better picture and then move from there.

I´m 30 right now, it took me some time to put all that money together, huh?!?! hehehe....this is just something i´ve been waiting since i was a kid...

All the best

Smike 15th May 2007 19:55

Been messing with that FAQ on this rotor forum...a lot of info there...i didnt even know that a rotor forum was available.

Found there that Helicopters Adventures at Florida, they offer a course of JAA and FAA combined...until now i didnt even consider to get and FAA convalidation, would it be interesting?

Cheers!

paco 15th May 2007 23:25

I anticipate helicopter Services in Wycombe being able to operate an integrated course by the end of the year.

phil

Bravo73 15th May 2007 23:29


Originally Posted by paco (Post 3291080)
I anticipate helicopter Services in Wycombe being able to operate an integrated course by the end of the year.

Really? Heli Services are going to start offering ATPL Groundschool? :confused:

Are you sure?

Smike 16th May 2007 12:01

Hey Paco, thx for the hint.

I´ve found out this Canadian school...http://priacademy.com/program-heli.html and i´m a bit confused, is it the same as http://www.helicopterscanada.com/ ?

Pardon my ignorance but, for what i´ve read, Canada has his own license? not FAA or JAA, right?

Last, i´ve seen most of you speak bout ground schools and flight schools as different things so, i was wondering what´s the difference....i thought that when studying to be a pilot one would have theory classes on the ground and flight training aswell...i guess this is more me missunderstanding....;o)

Cheers!

Edit

These two at NZ look cool aswell...i see they´re offering JAA & FAA combined courses

http://heliflight.co.nz/
http://www.helipro.co.nz/

Thoughts? ;-)

paco 16th May 2007 12:55

"Really? Heli Services are going to start offering ATPL Groundschool?
Are you sure?"

Yes, I've just written the notes for an integrated course. Bit early to start ringing up, though. It's all got to go through the mill. However modular version available real soon now. You can PM for details.

"Pardon my ignorance but, for what i´ve read, Canada has his own license? not FAA or JAA, right?"

Yes, administered by Transport Canada. The only school to offer anything on that side of the water is HAI in Florida, but that's residential, and for ATPL(H). However, Canada's system is up to ICAO standard.

phil

Smike 16th May 2007 13:57

Thecontroller, yeah...you´re absolutely right...that´s why i´m asking SO MUCH...trying to get as much info as i can. As i said its not something i decided a couple of days back....thx for the headups anyways..;o)

When u say, look at wich country would u like to work...if i do a combined FAA_JAA CPL...i´d be able to work at the UE & USA, right?

NZ looks like a good place to go...so does the USA, althought as u said i need to know bout the other costs apart from the course itself. Its kind of a hard and confusing decision to take.

Paco, thx for clearing up the canadian thingy...;o) Could i have the info bout Helicopter Services integrated course aswell?

Best wishes

Bravo73 16th May 2007 14:40

Sorry for doubting you, Phil. Just checked and you're bang on the money!

Good luck to Heli Services. :ok:

paco 16th May 2007 15:10

Yeah well, we aim to blow the socks off the competition!

phil

Bravo73 16th May 2007 16:03

In a field of one (of UK integrated providers), that should be quite straight forward! ;)

Smike 16th May 2007 18:29

Btw, doing some reading here i´ve found some people speaking very cool things bout a school called... OZ? Cant find a link for it anyone can direct me to their site?

Cheers

paco 16th May 2007 23:35

Bravo 73 - there will be a modular course as well in about two weeks!

And it won't take much to add fixed wing! In fact, that's already done, we're just too busy to do anything about it!

phil


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