If you asked for a copy and got something different or nothing, please, email me again. I got mixed up between files on my laptop and PC. Maybe they're right about the age thing after all!

Ian

An Appeal will be lodged on Monday. There is enough left in the kitty to do this with professional help. Thereafter I'm on my own again.:uhoh:

Thank you Ian and good luck. :ok::ugh::)

Well-done.
All the very best.

Clado.

Ian,

A similar situation arising in Canada: this thread may be of interest?

Very interesting but, sorry to say, not particularly relevant to our situation. The Air Canada situation is about employment contracts, Canada has no age discrimination in aviation law as far as I can tell. The pilot contracts were written with the FAA Age 60 Rule for international multi-crew operations in mind as much of Air Canada's business is in the USA.

Thanks for your interest Senior Pilot. I'll keep information on the Appeal up to date as I get it myself.

Ian

The Judgement
 

A number of you requested a copy of the Tribunal's Reasons for their Judgement.

I have just discovered that the electronic copy I requested from the Court was incomplete in that it missed the most important bits, i.e. the Court's reasoning.

I have a pdf copy of the complete document which I'm happy to forward to anyone. Sorry I didn't keep a record of who already requested a copy and got the incomplete version.

Ian

The Age thingy
 

Hi Ian,

I am looking at doing a third piece on the tribunal's illogical decision.

Can I ask you to PDF the text to me. I might be able to get it into a non aviation newspaper.

Best wishes mate ... and don't forget my earlier offer of help when the time comes

Dennis Kenyon

We finally got a date for the Appeal Hearing; 17/18 March.

I've been slow to publish this because of the very recent and very welcome intervention of the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) who have agreed to represent me at the Appeal at their expense. This has only just been confirmed.

Given the inadequate level of representation I had at the original hearing, i. e. myself, and realising now how my legal naivety allowed the opposition to easily overcome my arguements I am doubly delighted. First because the CAA's lawyers will have some proper opposition to face but, more importantly, the EHRC have recognised this is a matter of our rights as individuals to live our lives as we wish. This case was always more about rights than money for me and, win or loose, I seem to have been vindicated on that score.

Ian

Fantastic news, will continue to watch with (close, selfish) interest. Good on you!

...weird, that last message of mine says it was posted at 0401. It's just past midday here, and my preferences are deffo set to GMT with DST.

Thud
You could be getting confused. It's a sign of age. :p

Ian,

Excellent news - well done. Where will the hearing be held? I'll do my best to be there. CH

Employment Appeal Tribunal

Audit House
58, Victoria Embankment
EC4Y 0DS

No landing sites nearby, I'm afraid!

Cheers

Good luck in your quest, but selfishly, I hope not too many old pilots continue to fly beyond 65, giving us younger guys some chance of promotion. !!!

Well done Ian. Glad to see that you are now getting the proper level of support that you deserve. :)

Hi Uncs - are the Great Unwashed permitted to attend?

Great news about the EHRC.

Cheers

Whirls

Of course not but as you scrub up very nicely you'll be very wecome.

Seriously, though, I expect this to be a very dry affair with mainly esoteric legal arguements. I guess the public is allowed to watch (not just done but seen to be done) but I'll check and post the answer.

Ian

Ian, those are brilliant news.

Since it looks like we are allowed in You can count on my support on the first day.

Excellent news Ian. Thank you for all your hard work. Good luck with the appeal.