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sailaani 1st July 2014 19:47

what are my chances to get a job in civ sector?
 
hello everyone

i am a military helicopter pilot
i'm planning to get CPL (H) from my country (ICAO complaint state).
but before this i need to quit ARMY , presently i have total of 1100 hours (73 hrs on TH300C, rest on bell 412 with 120 NVG hrs)
i'm ready to take this big decision of leaving ARMY but i want to be more certain about things

what are my chances of getting my first job in civ sector anywhere in the world with this kind of experience????
looking forward to your response

EC155B1 1st July 2014 23:15

Req Info
 
Greetings to all.

I consider this forum is a gateway to the world of Opportunities in Aviation and I am a true beneficiary of information I acquired here.

I am yet again in need of info and req you folks to share the chief Pilot's or the operation head contact information Of heli-Malongo and SON AIR.

Will appreciate any input on this through PM or in open forum.

Cheers and happy landing always

155

vaibronco 2nd July 2014 08:43

info are not enough
 
Planet Earth? Nobody will give you an answer till you specify nationality of yourself and your license. Some countries require JAA or FAA, some of them have immigration restriction. What kind of job would you look for. A twin is not really useful without IR. Read in the previous posts, you will find the answers.

jhauma 3rd July 2014 08:18

Thank you Miklavz. You show me here are some gentleman as I guess.

Only to say nobody else than you said anything in a week. Is awesome, but is ok for me.

My grandfather said to me many times "time place everyone at their places".

Otherwise, I have no information about that company EC155B1, sorry.

Nice flights.:ok:
Jhauma.

sailaani 3rd July 2014 19:56

any chances in ME?
 
i'll be retiring from military soon and i'm qualified on b 412 (1000 hrs) ,presently in process of getting my CAA cpl H /IR.
i'd highly appreciate your guidance in this regard

palacio802 6th July 2014 10:23

Hi. I'm an ex-military pilot from Spain looking for a job. Can anybody explain what exactly mean all those job positions when state "Canadian license" or "South African license? I mean. I hold a JAA license and I'm wondering why this detailed statement. Is my license not valid in Canada or in South Africa? Is it not possible to convert my license to a valid license in those countries? Or is it simply because they don't want to hire people from abroad?

collector 6th July 2014 10:50

Hi palacio...as for the Canadian cpl, a conversion from your EASA cpl should cost somewhere between 6k and 9k CAD...for flying and fees alone...furthermore, in order to get a job there, you shoud have a right to work or live there.

palacio802 6th July 2014 18:51

Hi collector. Thank you for your reply. I'm so sad about US and Canadian work permit system. I can pick up injured americans in Afghanistan but it seems that I can't fly a helicopter in California...:=

Bravo73 6th July 2014 22:08

Welcome to the world labour market.

If it's any consolation, a Californian wouldn't be allowed to fly helicopters in Spain (without the correct visa or passport).

xtremalsound 7th July 2014 07:06

Hello Palacio802,

To covert your easa license to south Africa is quite simple, you need to go there, write a air law and procedures exam and do a checkride, this one can be done in any helicopter.
I have still sa validations and is quite easy, of course the cheaper way is a company sponsor you and pay for it.

For us, it is very difficult to get a job there unless you are a legal resident..

Buena suerte!

hueyracer 7th July 2014 07:44


For us, it is very difficult to get a job there unless you are a legal resident..

It´s more the amount of money you´re asking for…..
Pilots in africa are cheap-cheaper than anyone from Europe, US or Canada..
Why should a company hire expensive pilots from overseas, when there are enough pilots on the local market (that do not require work visa)?

collector 7th July 2014 08:04

There is an interesting article in June/July issue of Vertical magazine regarding experienced pilots shortage during season in Canada.

hueyracer 7th July 2014 09:38

And this article is not true.

There are plenty of experienced pilots in Canada-every now and then, an opening comes up for an EXPERIENCED pilot (which-in canadian terms usually means: with hundreds of hours of long line experience)…..

Then the companies will turn to ask their employees….and they will recommend one or two of their "buddies"..

Sorry-but that´s the way the business goes….

palacio802 7th July 2014 09:45

Well, of course in every country you need a visa. But as far as I know, if you have a contract to work in Spain, you can live and work here with no problems at all. But well, this is going off-topic.

newfieboy 7th July 2014 13:01

Rotary Jobs 2014
 
Shortage in Canada eh....Company I work for hired quite a few pilots this year. But all rehires from local crews to Belgian and French crews etc that have hundreds hours longline and already on company books. They also have the right to work in Canada ie Permanent Resident or Citizenship. Those that weren't rehires were recommended through the buddy system. And again all very experienced longline guys. The days of Temporary Foreign Work permits are numbered for sure.....not just in the helicopter industry either.

Bravo73 7th July 2014 13:10


Originally Posted by palacio802 (Post 8552833)
But as far as I know, if you have a contract to work in Spain, you can live and work here with no problems at all.

A contract alone will not be enough. The hiring company will also have to sponsor the applicant for a visa, unless they are willing to hire illegal immigrants. Which might well be the case in Spain.

xtremalsound 7th July 2014 17:27

Palacio802, if you have a job in Spain and you are from outside of Europe, it means that a company is sponsoring you... My former company brings all years some Chileans pilots for the firefighting seasons, and they can work and live because they have been sponsored. The same way we were to chile in their firefighting season ( european winter)

Bravo73 almost of the european countries have similar regulations regarding immigrants, so if you are not legal resident or have been spored nobody is going to hire you.
you are talking rubbish when you said it might be a case that spanish companies hire illegal immigrants....
Please if you don't know anything about spanish companies, don't tell bullshifts here...

Bravo73 7th July 2014 19:22


Originally Posted by xtremalsound (Post 8553363)
Bravo73 almost of the european countries have similar regulations regarding immigrants, so if you are not legal resident or have been spored nobody is going to hire you.
you are talking rubbish when you said it might be a case that spanish companies hire illegal immigrants....
Please if you don't know anything about spanish companies, don't tell bullshifts here...

Calm down, xtremalsound. I know full well what the European laws regarding employment are. Please read what I actually wrote, not what you think that I wrote. The important word is 'might'. :rolleyes:

rbaron 7th July 2014 19:25

Inaer?
 
Anyone here with Inaer willing/able to provide some internal insight and contacts? Alternatively, can anyone tell me if Spanish, and a JAA license are required to get on with Inaer or will a willingness to learn the language and an ICAO license be acceptable?

Thank you in advance for any insight, by reply or pm...

Have ICAO ATPs (helicopters/aeroplane) and time on S-76 A/C+. Initial training done on C++ Sim - other potential employment suggestions welcome.

rbaron

xtremalsound 7th July 2014 20:00

Bravo73, I read very well and carefully what you wrote and I know you used the word "might", but anyway with this word you are suggesting or giving false ideas. So please be respect with the companies in other countries.

Regards


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