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Bladecrack 17th October 2006 18:18

AS350B3 Type Conversion
 
Hi all,
Does anyone know where i can do a AS350B3 conversion in the UK? Have tried all the usual suspects, some have approvals for the course, none have a B3 available. :ugh: If not in the UK maybe some of our Scandanavian friends could recommend somewhere over that neck of the woods as I know you are quite fond of the 350 series over there. Heres hoping....
Regards,
BC.

Queen O' the Skies 17th October 2006 21:51

Try PremiAir - they had (use of) a B3 at Oxford about 18 months ago, I did mine with the CP and not the Chief Training Captain, and as far as I know Jim's still there.

QOS

perfrej 18th October 2006 06:15

AS350B3 rating...
 
Scandinavia... I can tell you about the Swedish situation. There are currently only two FTO/TRTO organizations operational. They do a fair amount of trading with their "papers", so a few more locations than two are available for type rating. I beleive West Helicopter in Luleå would possibly be able to help you, or Kallaxflyg (also way up north). Bear Flight in Gothemburg holds an FTO. The biggest flight school operation is at Roslagens Helikopterflyg just north of Stockholm, and Christer Öhlund there will at least be able to point you in the right direction. His full FTO is used by the Luleå organizations as well. The school part of his operation is "Proflight".

I am slated for a type rating on the B3 next year, but I'll go down to southern France and take a factory check-out. The factory apparently holds a full FTO of JAR flavour. I would definately check there.

/per

katismo 18th October 2006 11:13

perfrej,

What I know, the factory (Eurocopter) doesn't have a TRTO, FTO or any kind of JAR approval.

That's amazing, isn't it?:sad:

Easist way is to contact Swedish companies. They do very good work with training in JAR world.

Bladecrack 18th October 2006 11:52

B3 Type Rating
 
Hi All,
Thanks for the replys, I did speak to Jim at Premiair but no B3 available at the Min.
Eurocopter say they can do course in France, 4 days Groundschool and 6hrs flying, which I thought was a bit OTT for a SE Type Conversion, however even they said I would have to source my own B3 as they dont have one available :ugh:
The B3 I would be flying came from Sweden (swedish reg) and its pilot did the rating there, but he is out of the country for a while and I cant get the details off him.
Any further help appreciated,
Regards,
BC.

perfrej 18th October 2006 14:19


Originally Posted by katismo (Post 2915235)
perfrej,

What I know, the factory (Eurocopter) doesn't have a TRTO, FTO or any kind of JAR approval.

That's amazing, isn't it?:sad:

Easist way is to contact Swedish companies. They do very good work with training in JAR world.

Strange... I talked to the Swedish rep, and apparently they are now supposed to have one. I'd better check before I accept the rating from them...

dunnarunna 18th October 2006 17:22

Call Roly James on 01256 783999, he should be able to sort you out.

Xavier Dosh 19th October 2006 12:42

I'll be honest I don't know for sure, but you could try London Helicopter Centres??

Try Marcus

They have a new AS350 (G-CDTD?)

Maybe they could help

Aesir 19th October 2006 13:53

I assume you need a "Differences" course? You already hold a 350 type rating don´t you.

JAR-FCL 2.220 app1 says that your AS350 typerating should be endorsed in your licence as "AS350/350B3" but you of course still need "D" check to fly one if you have never flown it before!

Then you only need a review of the flight manual and at least 1 hours differences training with an instructor. There is no need for a FTO or TRTO for "D" training. If you have or know someone that has B3 find an instructor and get the "D" training from him.

But then again you have some different view of JAR regulations in the UK than the rest of JAA world so it may not apply in the UK.

I can actually give you the familiarisation right now! It´s easy:

Batt on
Fuel pump on
Helicopter on
Fuel pump off.....and you are ready to fly! Loosen the frictions and turn on some radios if you want and have fun ;)

GoodGrief 19th October 2006 14:03

Well, Eurocopter is a TRTO, you can get a type rating there, but they don't have any helicopters.
They do charter from companies whatever machine is needed.
I did my EC135 rating with them.

Bladecrack 19th October 2006 15:38

Hi All,
As my origional post said, "Type Rating" not "differences"!!
Anyway....
Making some progress... LHC - said no (B2)
Found a possible.. TBC
Thanx anyway guys.
Regards,
BC.

Ned-Air2Air 19th October 2006 19:05

Heliaviation have a nice new B3 there in their fleet but not sure if they use it for training.

www.heliaviation.co.uk

Aesir 19th October 2006 19:08

Bladecrack. Seems to me you said "AS350B3 Type Conversion" I misunderstood you and thought you wanted conversion to B3 from B series.

Good luck on your initial AS350/350B3 Type rating course.

Bladecrack 20th October 2006 10:45

B3 Conversion
 
Thanks Guys,
I will check 'em out!
Regards,
BC

goose boy 23rd October 2006 16:28

If I was you I would stay clear of the company at goodwood unless you like dealing with cowboys.


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