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French Cougar Crash VIDEO !
I hope that nobody was severely injured.
This looks like a tail rotor failure after ground contact with the tail rotor. The download is 1,8 MB just click on "free" -download and wait a couple of seconds. -Does anybody know the exact date of the accident. -Do you have an accident report? -What exact type of Cougar/Puma was it? Cougar Crash VIDEO |
WOW! :eek:
That is one hellavu piece of footage. The guy that falls out and gets run over by the wheel ends up in the same sort of position that the winchman on the Taiwanese Dauphin found himself in, only on the ground! A must see for all!! :ugh: SS |
That is one awesome bit of footage!!
:ok: Did the guy that got trown out survive? If he did he should go and buy a lotto ticket!!! |
I guess the flying pilot forgot to call "Cut, Cut, Cut" after starting to spin... engines where still running while laying on its side. Thank god for those Cut out Handles!
The outcome might have been better if the rate of turn had been slowed/kept constant by quickly shutting the stoves down. Anyway... live and learn... I'll try to remember what it really looks like (and how much it would hurt) when I go back to the sim in January! :oh: :ok: |
One good reason to go Bell, Collective Mounted Throttles!
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Are there twins out there with collective mounted throttles other than Bell?
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hotzenplotz: Yes
Bell 212, Bell 412, Bell 222 . I think all the Bell twins have collective throttles. |
Geez guys,
Why bother with a copilot if he can't chop the throttles? Do you really want to put all of them out of a job? |
hotzenplotz,
Yes, the Puma does have underfloor tanks. Helieng |
Are there twins out there with collective mounted throttles other than Bell |
That cameraman has bigger cojones than me...:uhoh:
He doesn't even flinch, never mind run like hell, even with large bits of blade hurtling past him... Nige:8 |
reaching the fuellevers...
hy folks
everybody is talking about the copilot should reach the fuel-levers... after a reaction time of some seconds (to know whats going on) you have already so much spin and centrifugal force that moving your hands will be hard you can not imagine... i know personaly 2 pilots who had to deal with tailrotor losses..one in an alouette 3 and one in a puma...both (luckely) were still able to tell us what happens...after 2 turns it was quite impossible to move your body or hands because the centrifugal-force pushes you towards the door on your side...headphones or not tightend material was looking like "glued" to the windows...the only thing they could do was holding the collective... which brings us back to the collectiv mounted throttles... cheers and happy landings.. |
Are there twins out there with collective mounted throttles other than Bell? |
This helicopter is a SA 330BA from the french ALAT, Army aviation.
ALAT operates with a crew of 3, 2 pilot and 1 flight engineer in the middle jump seat. This configuration could seem strange, but think that army helicopters are to be operated on the field, far from their home base. For the light maintenance and deep preflight, it's the way better to have somebody really competent in that matter. This accident occured around 5 years ago during a training with police special forces. The landing was quit hard and what you can see on the video is the result. Cheers |
The co-pilot, posing for the camera, having his arm out of the window on approach may also have hindered the throttle chopping.
Not having a dig, just an observation. |
Fire starting
hotzenplotz
It actually has nothing to do with the tanks being in the floor but more with the way the overflow vents was designed or not. The 330 was known for burning after rollover. I know of at least 3 cases were this happened. In the 332 the design was changed and the hazard removed. |
The 2 fire levers (coupe-feu) are located close to the throttles on the overhead panel. At that rate of spin, nobody could reach the levers. A similar accident happened in 1995 at le Bourget air show. This involved a AS 532 L1. Not for the same reason but with same result. Aircraft destroyed, light injuries.
That's why, if you are unable to close down the throttles you can't either close the fire levers and with the boost pumps still working, you start a fire. In that matter, it's better on a bell 214ST with the fuel valves on the central panel. Cheers |
more with the way the overflow vents was designed or not. The 330 was known for burning after rollover. I know of at least 3 cases were this happened. In the 332 the design was changed and the hazard removed. How did they remove the problem? |
It was a SA-330 B PUMA
exactly this machine: http://www.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/open.file/718068/L/ Does anybody have the accident report? |
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