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vpaw pilot 29th June 2006 12:23

Well,

There is no doubt that as you get older, you find it harder to assimilate and learn highly detailed stuff such as acft tech, but it is not impossible.

The Army SSO's pass some pretty stringent aptitude testing prior to recruitment, and some of them have a solid aviation background. Some though get in with a bare CPL(H) and a $40,000 debt. But those guys will sit in the left seat as co pilot for at least a year, and will never fly SPIFR in anger.

But no one is born a pilot....:cool:

rivnut 29th June 2006 22:08


Originally Posted by vpaw pilot
But no one is born a pilot....:cool:

Well Vpilot....don't know about that? There are quite a few pilots with egos big enough to believe they were! You know the ones I'm talking about...they are around us everywhere just waiting for a good backstab.

checkthegate 3rd July 2006 02:26

So does this now pave the way for the other 2 350 drivers ?

maxeemum 3rd July 2006 06:59

Welcome to crazy. Maaaaaaaaaate!
Max

:)

checkthegate 3rd July 2006 08:33

Crazy yeah!

I dont wish to take anything away from the gye that got the slot, but!
How does it make it fair, for people that go and hock their arsses in places like New Guinea, flying in some pretty dam tough conditions, who have earned some real aviation experience.:rolleyes:

all_torque 3rd July 2006 11:09

TJF!:cool:

sikhorsey 3rd July 2006 12:20

'There is no doubt that as you get older, you find it harder to assimilate and learn highly detailed stuff such as acft tech, but it is not impossible.

The Army SSO's pass some pretty stringent aptitude testing prior to recruitment, and some of them have a solid aviation background. Some though get in with a bare CPL(H) and a $40,000 debt. But those guys will sit in the left seat as co pilot for at least a year, and will never fly SPIFR in anger.'


What the :confused: Have trained many older pilots and have never come across this phenomenon. By the way lots of guys get through without anything like a CPL and the accompanying debt. The only common thread for success is the desire to succeed no matter what obstacle may get in your way. A little brains and a lot of gut effort can still go a long way in this world. Lots of guys in AAAVN fly SPIFR in anger, sometimes even in fun, they are called QFI's.;)

vpaw pilot 3rd July 2006 12:31


Originally Posted by sikhorsey
'There is no doubt that as you get older, you find it harder to assimilate and learn highly detailed stuff such as acft tech, but it is not impossible.
The Army SSO's pass some pretty stringent aptitude testing prior to recruitment, and some of them have a solid aviation background. Some though get in with a bare CPL(H) and a $40,000 debt. But those guys will sit in the left seat as co pilot for at least a year, and will never fly SPIFR in anger.'

What the :confused: Have trained many older pilots and have never come across this phenomenon. By the way lots of guys get through without anything like a CPL and the accompanying debt. The only common thread for success is the desire to succeed no matter what obstacle may get in your way. A little brains and a lot of gut effort can still go a long way in this world. Lots of guys in AAAVN fly SPIFR in anger, sometimes even in fun, they are called QFI's.;)

Yep...

Agree wholeheartedly....

Though we called them QHIs....

:)

checkthegate 4th July 2006 02:52

Being just a by-stander and reading this post it would seem that one of the positions had already been decided before the interview process had strarted:hmm:

OWAP 4th July 2006 04:15

CTG,

Whether this was true or not and it was most certainly not, everyone should remember only one line pilot position was advertised.

:bored:

rivnut 12th April 2007 23:37

VPAW Contract
 
This tread was about the Vic Police Contract.....if I'm right the tender went out about 4 years ago???

So....has anything happened....I gather by now it has all been finalised so what did VPAW end up with?:hmm:

eagle 86 13th April 2007 04:08

SH,
Did a factory course a couple of years ago - topped it.The other 10 or so students were about half my age at, averagely, 30ish.
GAGS
E86

CYHeli 13th April 2007 06:44

The Chief Commissioner recently said that Robbies were cheap to run...:}
But fear not. She also said that the crew would not take her up in the AS350 and they keep making some comment about only using twins over a built up area.
They must really value the chief if they are taking such great care of her...

rivnut 13th April 2007 09:02

Anybody with an intelligent reply? Just wondering what VPAW ended up with in the new contract with CHC?

Delta Torque 13th April 2007 10:14

Hmm
 
I think the intention is to replace the 'C' with a new N3, and replace the Squirrel with a 135.

But, as always, this is set in wet concrete, and has not been signed off yet.

yarpa 13th April 2007 12:18

Um, Riv as far as I know the contract has not been awarded yet, Vic Gov cannot be too hasty. Me thinks they are trying to figure out how to tell the losing parties that they went for aicraft not meeting the specs !! :ugh: Back out for tender perhaps?

rivnut 13th April 2007 14:09

So DT and Yarpa...what you are saying is that after all these years the cops still have not made a decision:sad: :O
GO FIGURE! I thought that by now a decision on the aircraft would of been made.....the guys at the Wing must be getting pretty frustrated with the whole thing.

Delta Torque 13th April 2007 20:04

I think you will find the 'cops' have fulfilled their side of the business...more down to bean counters and other agencies....

Shlaaper 10th May 2007 10:29

Contract Calamity
 
CYHeli, the only reason the Chief wouldn't (couldn't) fly in a 350 is because with her on board the thing would be over max gross!! :oh:

Anyway, as far as the contract goes, the police and their bean counters will have to wait until the contractually chosen aircraft become obsolete before signing on the dotted line, which is probably a good thing as the aircraft will match the obsolete operational equipment,standards and pilots!

It amazes me that an operation such as the Victoria Police Airwing is still suffocated by an inept management, who choose to waste money on whims rather than put it to good use in the operation. :ugh: An example being, they actually paid someone to tell them to change the POLICE logo to lower case because it's less intimidating. Ridiculous!!

Yarper 10th May 2007 11:19

Hay schlaaper.

It wasn't that the 350 would of been over weight, it was due to the fact that they didn't have a big enough belt extender.

I think the lower case lettering is very plesent on the eye and my feelings!:}

I think that this thread time and time again keeps coming back to a common entitty, the victorian goverment, and the 2min xpert running with the wing!

:cool:


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