Quite a sad day for the Aer Corps it must be said. In all these situations people need to take a step back and decide what it is that needs to be changed in order to make things work and obviously this did not happen (or at least not effectively). There is no doubt more to the story than meets the eye.

Hedski, if they want a really cheap option they could get rid of SAR helicopters completely, there is nothing in the Chicago Convention that says you must provide them. The Dept for Transport only has to provide Search and Rescue facilities in its area of responsibility - these are unspecified facilities. The only reason the SAR helicopters exist is because the MoD provide immediate rescue cover for ejected or crashed Military aircrew - we only spend 0.5% of our working life doing these jobs because fortunately military crashes have reduced in frequency over the years. The rest of our working life might as well be spent being productive so the MoD allows the MCA, NHS, MRTS and police to request our assistance on appropriate rescues through ARRC Kinloss.

Resecue 116 (Wicklow Ireland)
 

Resecue 116 (EI MES) landed just weast of wicklow town Ireland
shortly before 1.30 Today Saterday.

lifted casulaty to tallagh Hospital.

Any one have more info???

CHC Ireland
 

Any info on CHC Ireland?? Good, bad, pay, anyone there enjoy it, loathe it? Any information greatly appreciated! Many thanks.

When you take into account high tax, expensive housing and the general high price of everything due to massive inflation, add to it the fact that pay is considerably less then most other operators.
Then possibly having to live in Sligo or Cork, make sure you know beforehand what your getting into.
Rumour has it quite a few unhappy staff over there.
But at the end of the day it is work

Don't worry. The chief pilot usually talks the job down to such an extent that it puts most people off.

What autosync says is on the money. If one then throws in the nature of the job; only two very near rigs to fly to and the amazingly low number of hours flown...........

But if you're happy to be an N2 co-piloto for the rest of your career and you enjoy the rain then go for it

Is 'weast' a new pilot term?

It could come in useful at times.

Its just South of the north along the Weast side, they came all the way down to pick up the fallen climber to bring him down to the top of the hospital.

:}

Sligo SAR
 

One of the strengths of civvie SAR operations is that it tends to bring together a wide variety of experience and backgrounds.
The one thing that all of the flight crews (pilots and winchcrew) have in common is that they had to make sacrifices to get to where they are at. For some it was years of military service and all the assocaited B.S., while for others it was getting their parents to risk the family home to pay for their training. Either way a price had to be paid.
Most of the crews at CHC Ireland (and their families) appreciate the jobs they have.
When someone manipulates circumstance and in so doing threatens the security and long term prospects of a group of people, it is understandable that they wont like it. When an individual does this to enhance his pension and secure his golden handshake now they are gonna be pixxed off. When someone does this while aware of the employees views, well now I personally am at a loss. Completely gobsmacked.
Lets hope sense prevails and this dies a death before Sligo becomes another row.

The emotion on the pilot side of this is extremely intense. On the basis of what I have just read on the Ialpa CHC secure site, the union board should be very clear what their members want them to do.

Gentlemen, Ummm, would one of you like to enlighten the rest of us as to what you are writing about? Would love to know!
Regards,
Fatigue.

Fatigue, dont want this to turn into a character assasination. There have been enough of them already surrounding Sligo. Suffice to say someone not only wants to have their cake and eat it ( dont we all)....But not if it undermines those with whom we wish to work.
That seems to be the widespread view.

what's the point
 

why post something on a semipublic forum if you don't spill the beans. You are taking up precious space. If it's internal, keep it there, don't make us curious.

Waffle,

whatever your beef is we cannot work out, but let me just point something out to you, call me picky if you want, but,

You state "When somone has made sacrifice's, for some it was years of Military service, or getting Mater and Pater to fund your training",

Well forgive the power this early in the am, but quiet frankly "You need to get a life " sad old you, what a poor sad person you are, if you have skill then get out into the atmoshpere and find a use for it, don't whinge on about something that seems to have upset your Cornflakes that means absolutly naff all to the rest of us.

Military service was a choice for many in the last 40 years not a forced occupation, and if your parents had enough collateral to risk on some flight of fancy to train you then good for them, now get on and use it. :mad:

This is one of those threads that is usually seen in Jetblast and started by Tony Draper to ensure that he retains the record of the most prolific poster.

I agree with all of the previous posters - all that has been achieved is to irritate a (potentially) sympathetic group; either delete the thread or make it a worthwhile read.

Sorry if the thread is not entertaining you. It was not meant to. It was meant as a specific "friendly" message to someone who is contemplating a move which is very shortsighted and not in THEIR best interest. Those who are in the know ie all the pilots and winchcrew at CHC Ireland and the IAC know exactly what it means.

Waffle,
The union board know the position of the members of Ialpa and have expressed their opposition to the co. Time to park this one and leave it to the official mechanisms.
Decks.

Hey Waffle, check your pm's........

Friendly message
 

Friendly or unfriendly messages are still best posted "eye 2 eye".
Call a "spade" a "spade" and an"a..hole" an "a..hole"; it helps in the longrun. Don't be shy.:{ :{

sligo sar
 

Hey Waffle,
Well, just when you wet everyones Rumour juices, you go cold and shy away from the story you so wonderfully set up!
So, there's trouble in the SAR world in Ireland again, tell us something new!!It would be amazing if there wasnt anything going on to gossip about.
Judging from your post, lets speculate.
Seems to invlove the pilots on this occassion,mmmm,prehaps something to do with unions being involved, possibly involvement of the Irish Aer Corps( RIP), lets guess!
Is it to do with an Aer corp pilot who wouldnt move from Sligo being offered a job?
Has the holy grail of " no direct entry Captains" been pushed under the table ?
Of course us ppruners not party to the "inner circle" will never know, but one day it will all leak , like it normally does, but hey then it will not be a rumour then , will it.

Never Let The Truth Get In The Way Of A Good Story