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206Fan 6th Nov 2023 03:53

Private Gazelle Incident in Lincolnshire.
 
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/347643

https://www.spaldingtoday.co.uk/news...crash-9338336/


Agile 6th Nov 2023 08:39

Somehow good outcome for hitting the pole on take off, noboby hurt thanks to the cabin in one piece and transmission still attached.

[email protected] 6th Nov 2023 08:41

A sad end for a nice looking machine - all for the want of a pair of sunglasses it would seem.

Nigerian Expat Outlaw 6th Nov 2023 12:20

I'm curious. The pilot was there to deliver a donation to a Veterans charity. I wonder if he's a former military pilot ? Not that it would have any bearing on the accident, just nosey.

NEO

gsa 6th Nov 2023 12:40

I wonder if the front seat pax opened the door before the blades got stopped.

Dave Gittins 6th Nov 2023 13:52


Originally Posted by gsa (Post 11534347)
I wonder if the front seat pax opened the door before the blades got stopped.

A moot point if they had already clobbered a floodlighting pole ... but it doesn't look the safest or the best design for the door if it opens right into the rotor disc.

Bravo73 6th Nov 2023 14:51


Originally Posted by Nigerian Expat Outlaw (Post 11534333)
I wonder if he's a former military pilot ? Not that it would have any bearing on the accident, just nosey.

Having watched that aircraft depart other sites, if it was the same pilot, I highly doubt that he/she was ex-mil.

hargreaves99 6th Nov 2023 15:00

I thought the CAA had kiboshed the ability for N-reg helicopters being permanently based and flown in the UK?

md 600 driver 6th Nov 2023 16:22


Originally Posted by hargreaves99 (Post 11534430)
I thought the CAA had kiboshed the ability for N-reg helicopters being permanently based and flown in the UK?

CAA made all n reg owners in Uk have a uk licence to fly in uk airspace

hargreaves99 6th Nov 2023 16:58

So that means all the foreign registered Gazelles, MD500s etc that you see around the UK are being flown by people with UK CAA licences with valid type ratings/medicals?

Hughes500 6th Nov 2023 17:02

H99 correct. The CAA are trying to get all foreign ac based in UK to spend 72 hours outside UK airspace every 6 months !

md 600 driver 6th Nov 2023 17:02


Originally Posted by md 600 driver (Post 11534475)
CAA made all n reg owners in Uk have a uk licence to fly in uk airspace


Originally Posted by hargreaves99 (Post 11534498)
So that means all the foreign registered Gazelles, MD500s etc that you see around the UK are being flown by people with UK CAA licences with valid type ratings/medicals?

should be if they are uk residents

md 600 driver 6th Nov 2023 17:05


Originally Posted by Hughes500 (Post 11534501)
H99 correct. The CAA are trying to get all foreign ac based in UK to spend 72 hours outside UK airspace every 6 months !

that’s not to hard to do ? A weekend in LFAT but if they spent that time in easa land they would also need a easa licence as rules changed there too

hargreaves99 6th Nov 2023 17:05

a 3 day stay in le touquet every six months then?

with the type rating renewal and medical costs....that probably wipes out any cost saving from not having an aircraft on the G register?

Nubian 6th Nov 2023 17:21


Originally Posted by Dave Gittins (Post 11534384)
A moot point if they had already clobbered a floodlighting pole ... but it doesn't look the safest or the best design for the door if it opens right into the rotor disc.

The standard doors on the AS350/355, EC130, EC120 will all do that IF disconnected from the gas spring while rotors turn in its normal path. This Gazelle’s rotor might not have done, after the impact with the pole.

ahwalk01 7th Nov 2023 07:50

Why would I want an inferior license. I already have an ICAO one.

Thud_and_Blunder 7th Nov 2023 14:32

...and now we get the pedants discussing the difference between "license" (vb) and "licence" (n)... or perhaps not :cool:

SilsoeSid 9th Feb 2024 15:02


Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 11534216)
A sad end for a nice looking machine - all for the want of a pair of sunglasses it would seem.

... or at least a look around while approaching the aircraft for likely obstructions; or did complacency pay a key role as the pilot had been going there for 20 years according to the LincsOnline article.

meleagertoo 10th Feb 2024 11:35

As they are totally different words that would be a very strange application of "pedantry" indeed...

212man 10th Feb 2024 14:15


Originally Posted by Thud_and_Blunder (Post 11534952)
...and now we get the pedants discussing the difference between "license" (vb) and "licence" (n)... or perhaps not :cool:

depends if they use American English, when the noun and verb are spelled the same!


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