That looks to me like the battery compartment... :ooh:
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Originally Posted by Sir Korsky
(Post 11493241)
Pretty sure that 135 had no fire bottles installed. I've flown 4 or 5 airframes and all of them had no bottles. Never liked the 135 because of this.
Originally Posted by Scattercat
(Post 11493247)
The 135 has a Fire Extinguisher system available as a supplemental kit option (FMS 9.2-9) ... the basic configuration has a Fire Warning system only.
skadi |
Welcome to the USA, where those pesky heavy fire bottles can be seen as a weight shave. I'd be surprised if any HAA 135's in the US had them installed.
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Discussion of whether fire extinguisher bottle(s) were fitted/used is a moot point considering the location of the fire.
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Originally Posted by SilsoeSid
(Post 11493350)
Discussion of whether fire extinguisher bottle(s) were fitted/used is a moot point considering the location of the fire.
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Pretty sure FMS 9-2-9 Engine Fire Extinguisher (available in 1 shot or 2) is required if you are going to use the Cat A supplement.
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Isn’t the 135 IFR capable? I would have thought that would require fire suppression, or is that the point of the option?
It’s crazy it’s a choice. |
Watching the ABC News vid, the initial shot viewing the port side with ac moving right to left, the ‘source’ may be more inboard, under the ‘connecting flange’.
I wonder if the ac had recently been washed. |
If it is an uncontained fuel driven fire, that will be like a blowtorch so no wonder the TRDS and tailboom gave way.
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
(Post 11493429)
If it is an uncontained fuel driven fire, that will be like a blowtorch so no wonder the TRDS and tailboom gave way.
(Hyd@103 bar / Fuel press caution @ 0.6 bar P/W, 1.3 bar Arr2B1) Effect rather than cause of fire? |
This looks like part of the fire was in the boom where it failed?.
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Originally Posted by skadi
(Post 11493117)
There is another video which shows the starboard side and there is also visible fire at or behind the engine bay. There is a titanium firewall between and aft of both engines. I don't think that <2min of flighttime is enough to break these walls with fire.
skadi |
there was no tailboom baggage compartment on this helicopter-or any separate "baggage compartment" at all, as it is an EC-135 type.
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Effect rather than cause of fire? |
Originally Posted by [email protected]
(Post 11493497)
If, as someone suggested above, the initial failure was a turbine burst with blades being shed - that would make a lot of sense Sid.:ok:
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Originally Posted by 212man
(Post 11493526)
Well, the crew did report an engine failure, so it seems more like the fire was a consequence.
’According to officials, on Monday, the chopper had just taken off from the Pompano Air Park at 8:42 a.m. and was heading to a call in North Lauderdale regarding a car crash where a vehicle hit a bus stop at Prospect Road and State Road 7. Three minutes later, the BSFR helicopter had an engine failure that occurred shortly after takeoff.” However, it also says… “It is unclear how they managed to maneuver onto the roof.” :confused: |
This was my initial thoughts too, engine failure cause the fire. Seems most likely given engine failure was reported assuming that was correct
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If an engine does go bang as opposed to just turning itself off, who knows what collateral damage there could be and to which systems.
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Originally Posted by hoistop
(Post 11493485)
I worked many years on EC-135 and am astonished how fast the fire destroyed the primary structure.
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Originally Posted by SLFMS
(Post 11493552)
This was my initial thoughts too, engine failure cause the fire. Seems most likely given engine failure was reported assuming that was correct
They say they had an engine failure and are requesting a priority landing using a runway. ATC (Pompano Tower) clears them to land RWY06 (or, RWY Six, as they say over there.....) |
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