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albatross 22nd Feb 2023 20:55

Didn’t Bristow have a Puma do that on a rig offshore Malaysia years ago? I think Okanagan had an similar event with a Puma or 61 many moons ago. Both where shutdown at the time and vicious line squalls ruined the day.
I recall both resulted in rollovers.
Saw some photos of both events.

212man 22nd Feb 2023 21:14

Yes - not new at all.

HeliMannUK 23rd Feb 2023 13:32

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....456db28d05.jpg
Always wondered if the machine would fit on the back of one of those....well now i know.

lelebebbel 24th Feb 2023 14:42


Originally Posted by 212man (Post 11389977)
To be correct, its CP force - CF is an imaginary force…..

That depends on the reference frame

212man 24th Feb 2023 16:58


Originally Posted by lelebebbel (Post 11390988)
That depends on the reference frame

Pretty sure it doesn’t. CF is an inertial, or pseudo force

pants on fire... 27th Feb 2023 18:23

If the unrestrained blades started turning by themselves in response to the storm's winds, would this phenomenon be classified as "Ottorotation"?

Self loading bear 27th Feb 2023 21:12


Originally Posted by pants on fire... (Post 11392486)
If the unrestrained blades started turning by themselves in response to the storm's winds, would this phenomenon be classified as "Ottorotation"?

Only if the engine would self ignite due to compression

nowherespecial 28th Feb 2023 04:05


Originally Posted by pants on fire... (Post 11392486)
If the unrestrained blades started turning by themselves in response to the storm's winds, would this phenomenon be classified as "Ottorotation"?

:D bravo sir

212man 3rd Mar 2023 15:18

I have a video but it’s a .mov file - anyone know how I can upload here?

Bravo73 3rd Mar 2023 16:08


Originally Posted by 212man (Post 11394755)
I have a video but it’s a .mov file - anyone know how I can upload here?

I doubt if you can.

Your best bet might be to upload it to YouTube then link to it from here.

212man 3rd Mar 2023 16:36


Originally Posted by Bravo73 (Post 11394785)
I doubt if you can.

Your best bet might be to upload it to YouTube then link to it from here.

https://vimeo.com/804386419

roundwego 3rd Mar 2023 18:02

Ouch !!. It seems strange that, having shut down, if the pilots considered it necessary to tie the airframe down due to strong winds, they didn't tie the blades down.


76fan 3rd Mar 2023 18:24


Originally Posted by roundwego (Post 11394848)
Ouch !!. It seems strange that, having shut down, if the pilots considered it necessary to tie the airframe down due to strong winds, they didn't tie the blades down.

Not really. I once had a shutdown on he Beryl "A" when a ferocious wind blew up. I crawled around the deck lashing the S61N aircraft down but there was no way I could have tied the blades down.

Variable Load 3rd Mar 2023 19:59


Originally Posted by roundwego (Post 11394848)
Ouch !!. It seems strange that, having shut down, if the pilots considered it necessary to tie the airframe down due to strong winds, they didn't tie the blades down.

The rotors never stopped turning, so trying to 'catch' and tie down blades in those conditions would have been extremely hazardous.

212man 3rd Mar 2023 20:52


Originally Posted by Variable Load (Post 11394912)
The rotors never stopped turning, so trying to 'catch' and tie down blades in those conditions would have been extremely hazardous.

thanks for confirming what I thought. What’s curious is how quickly the winds developed. Given the storm had a name, it wasn’t a random squall.

Blackhawk9 4th Mar 2023 05:09

Goes to show what a crap rotor brake is fitted to the H175.

helicrazi 4th Mar 2023 06:59


Originally Posted by Variable Load (Post 11394912)
The rotors never stopped turning, so trying to 'catch' and tie down blades in those conditions would have been extremely hazardous.

And the 2 guys trying to lash it to the deck in the video wasn't hazardous? How one didn't get hit by the broken blade I do not know.

HSE are going to love this one.

roundwego 4th Mar 2023 09:20

A couple of questions if I may. Was the aircraft shut down within the RFM wind limits? Having shut the engines down, did the rotor brake fail?

212man 4th Mar 2023 09:23


Originally Posted by roundwego (Post 11395166)
A couple of questions if I may. Was the aircraft shut down within the RFM wind limits? Having shut the engines down, did the rotor brake fail?

I think outside but they had a TGB chip light. The brake couldn’t fully stop the blades.

PlasticCabDriver 4th Mar 2023 10:06


Originally Posted by roundwego (Post 11395166)
A couple of questions if I may. Was the aircraft shut down within the RFM wind limits? Having shut the engines down, did the rotor brake fail?

Shutdown was within limits, but the rotor brake on the 175 is poor, and couldn’t stop the wind from rotating the blades. The blade tie downs on the 175 are of the tip sock variety, so trying to get those onto rotating blades that are already flapping in the still-technically-in-limits-but-rapidly-increasing wind would have been impossible. They tied the airframe down and then evacuated the deck as it was getting too dangerous. Not sure of the actual wind speed by the time the video was taken.



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