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Haligali 30th Apr 2022 20:05

Subaru Bell 412EPX
 
Hello

I found on internet this new helicopter from Bell! Is this already in production and flying?

Is this a new version of Bell412 EPI or?
If somebody has some about it?

Tx

wrench1 30th Apr 2022 20:32


Originally Posted by Haligali (Post 11223396)
Is this a new version of Bell412 EPI or?

It's a different variant to the 412EP. The EPi and EPX are marketing names. The EPX was developed with Suburu/Fuji Heavy Industries for a Japanese military competition.

If somebody has some about it?
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5814b2ef63.png

Haligali 30th Apr 2022 20:36

Is this helicopter EASA certified?

wrench1 30th Apr 2022 21:32


Originally Posted by Haligali (Post 11223407)
Is this helicopter EASA certified?

I don't know. But you can look below to see if it has been added to the EASA TCDS. It is FAA certified.
https://www.easa.europa.eu/document-...e-certificates

chopper2004 1st May 2022 15:26


Originally Posted by Haligali (Post 11223396)
Hello

I found on internet this new helicopter from Bell! Is this already in production and flying?

Is this a new version of Bell412 EPI or?
If somebody has some about it?

Tx

was the JGSDF UH-X winner - Bell 412EPX for the armed forces and the civil version. Saw the first one at Heli Expo 2020. (my pics)

[img]blob:https://www.pprune.org/7bd87b10-0edb-4741-8f4e-b1ecf2f31d56[/img]

[img]blob:https://www.pprune.org/8b5890db-e1f3-4be2-b819-7af341febbfe[/img]

[img]blob:https://www.pprune.org/37e0d059-58ea-48e7-87aa-e8182007a638[/img]

Cheers

PANews 1st May 2022 22:37

It has been 'around' for some three years. It was launched as a civil project at the Singapore Helicopter Show in 2019 as a mock up and at the Singapore Air Show in 2020 as the flying article. It also appeared at the 2020 Heli-Expo but it seems got lost in covid but now causing a stir now we are coming out the other side with orders pending in the USA.

Main plus point is that it has a better gearbox than the original (the Subaru bit).

Evil Twin 2nd May 2022 08:00


Originally Posted by PANews (Post 11223903)
Main plus point is that it has a better gearbox than the original (the Subaru bit).

I thought it was just a different surface coating used on the gears that enabled an increase in usable power? Could easily be wrong though.

Blackhawk9 3rd May 2022 08:03

Garmin cockpit, run dry MGB , New composite pilots doors and panels , reduction in basic weight and increase in Max weight, 150 ordered by Japanese Govt , replace Huey , 212, 412 and S-76 in Mil an Govt organisations.
Nice machine , good truck, may not have the appeal of something like a 139 but won't fall apart every 2500 hrs.

wrench1 3rd May 2022 14:52

EPX spec sheets:
https://www.bellflight.com/-/media/s...ifications.pdf

Evil Twin 5th May 2022 07:29

From the spec sheets provided by wrench those are astrometric screens. I've used them in the 429 and they are far superior and much more reliable than the Rogerson kraptos in the EPI.

Blackhawk9 5th May 2022 10:32


Originally Posted by Evil Twin (Post 11225329)
From the spec sheets provided by wrench those are astrometric screens. I've used them in the 429 and they are far superior and much more reliable than the Rogerson kraptos in the EPI.

Bell have dumped RK junk and gone full Garmin on 505, 407, 429 and 412, all interchangeable between aircraft and coming up with converter kit to fit Garmin into machines with RK stuff.

Evil Twin 5th May 2022 12:06


Originally Posted by Blackhawk9 (Post 11225421)
Bell have dumped RK junk and gone full Garmin on 505, 407, 429 and 412, all interchangeable between aircraft and coming up with converter kit to fit Garmin into machines with RK stuff.

mate you sure it’s Garmin? I know for sure the the 429 is astrometric (sp) and they were looking at a retro fit solution for RK on the 412 Epi.

The EPI is a pretty good avionics fit and 4 axis autopilot is pretty well done but RK screwed the pooch with high cost and poor reliability

Encyclo 5th May 2022 14:20

Bye bye, RK; hello Astronautics!

Bell finally got rid of RK, which had been a royal pain in the butt for too many years, with poor design & reliability.

Astronautics is now used in both the 412 & 429 for PFDs.

Astronautics

Fly Safe, Always :ok:

PhlyingGuy 5th May 2022 15:15

Yeah... they're astronautics on the 429 and 412 Astronautics. The 505 and 407 use G100NXi displays and the 525 uses the G5000.

Blackhawk9 6th May 2022 04:26

Sorry yes , Astronautics for PFD's, Garman for Nav/Comms, 429/412 , full Garmin 505/407

chopper2004 25th May 2022 21:59

JGSDF UH-2 flies for first time
 
And the Japanese UH-X which was won by Subaru / Bell to supply Bell 412EPX mil version to the Japanese Ground Self Defense Force replacing their UH-1J Hueys , their UH-2 flies for first time .



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https://www.arrse.co.uk/community/at...4-jpeg.665569/

cheers

chopper2004 16th Aug 2022 22:01

Parapublic orders
 
So today San Bernandino County Sheriff Department joins

https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/21...HV-gp9lrGNwQF4

NYPD Aviation Unit

https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/21...ru-bell-412epx

Ventura County Sheriff Dept

https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/21...#39;s%20Office.

possibly San Diego Sheriff Dept

https://fireaviation.com/2022/04/29/...px-helicopter/

San Diego Gas & Electric

https://news.bellflight.com/en-US/21...ru-bell-412epx

And last year Japan NAtional Police Dept got their first one

https://www.subaru.co.jp/press/news-en/2021_05_20_9832/

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0e3c8e18b8.jpg

cheers




KiwiNedNZ 16th Aug 2022 22:08

Salt River Project also already ordered one.

SDG&E has been delivered but over at Hangar One getting mods done.

TBM700 5th Oct 2022 21:40

Love it !
If any of you has the RFM, I do like to have a look inside to see if the Subaru's make the good job I can imagine.

Haligali 8th Oct 2022 20:31

Also I am looking for Subaru RFM if somebody have it! Thanks


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