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Glevum 3rd Dec 2021 17:09

Hi HnH,

SES made up 4 harnesses in 2017 for use in the film industry. I am not sure if they are a standard product now, but they said they could make more at the time.

I suggest you speak to Ginny at SES.

Nigel Brennan 4th Dec 2021 00:35

crew harnesses
 
Morning Kiwined
we made harnesses for the Surf lifesaver helicopters here in OZ and they were CAR35'd listing each aircraft rego. This was the easiest way to cover each aircraft type (EC135/AS350/B206L'B105cb5) that was being used!
cheers
Nigel @ Skywerx

KiwiNedNZ 4th Dec 2021 07:00

Since this topic has gone completely off topic I thought I would remind everyone that the reason for this post is I am trying to find the manufacturer of the harness in the original post that was on display at the Heliservice AW169 at European Rotors. Its not one of the ones used by them and they said someone from Leonardo borrowed it from another exhibitor at the show to put on display but I cannot find who that exhibutor is even after going through their website. So if anyone has an idea that would be great :)



KiwiNedNZ I am curious what sort of quick release products you are using (and mind you this is strictly curiosity, I am not in the HEC or shoe-selfie business!) All of the ones I've seen advertised rely on a snap shackle mechanism. Having extensive maritime experience with snap shackles, I would NEVER trust such a mechanism for safety of life! When going aloft (up a mast) to fix something we always tied in to the halyard and never trusted the snap shackle alone (and sometimes used two halyards). I had heard rumors of a device based on the ubiquitous 3-ring release used in skydiving--that I would trust implicitly (I'm also a skydiver). But not a snap shackle, particularly one with an easily snag-able handle or lanyard.
I primarily use two - one was made in Australia that a lot of the crewies wear. It has the parachute rings type setup on the back and the ripcord type handle on the front. The other one I use is a US made one from ARS which has the quick release lanyard.

Because of the way the FAA do it now after the Hudson accident they approve a person with each specific harness and then send you paperwork for that specific combination of you and that harness. If you turn up to do a shoot and an FAA rep does a spot inspection and you are using a different harness to that mentioned in the approval doc then the operator is in deep ****e.

aa777888 4th Dec 2021 13:22


Originally Posted by KiwiNedNZ (Post 11151136)
Because of the way the FAA do it now after the Hudson accident they approve a person with each specific harness and then send you paperwork for that specific combination of you and that harness. If you turn up to do a shoot and an FAA rep does a spot inspection and you are using a different harness to that mentioned in the approval doc then the operator is in deep ****e.

As defined in FAA Order 8900.4, already referenced and discussed above.

The Petzl Avao Bod International seems a near clone (or more likely the other way around, given Petzl's market leadership). Why not just get the Petzl?

KiwiNedNZ 4th Dec 2021 17:26


Why not just get the Petzl?
Because as I said previously I am not wanting to buy it - I already have two harnesses of my own that I use. I own and publish HeliOps - we always keep an eye out on what harnesses are out there for crews to use and in some cases highlight them in the mag. This was one we hadnt seen before hence the original post asking if anyone knew who makes it so we can source some additional info about it.

421dog 4th Dec 2021 23:01

I think it looks a lot like a Beal harness. The D rings, stitching, and general design are really close to a “Pro Hold Up” that bounces around the airport here when people need to climb tall stuff.y


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