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Tango and Cash 26th Oct 2021 19:34

I must say the S-76 on skids looks better than the 412 on wheels.... always thought the 412 on wheels looked like it had landed on top of a Cessna 172.

ShyTorque 26th Oct 2021 23:51

The S-76 looks even better with its landing gear retracted….

albatross 27th Oct 2021 11:35

212man
Well, long ago so excuse my memory, the 76A in the tropics 135 KTS cruise was what we flight planned and on a hot day we were happy to see that..
Just curious but I don’t recall the 130 VNE gear down limitations. Was it in Emergency Procedures? I don’t see it in limitations. Many moons since I flew one.
I recall the “Dance of Death” departing a low deck on a hot, no wind day. Not exactly a mighty leap into the air. Much fun.
Hope you are doing well in Nigeria. I miss the Miri / Anduki Daze.

gulliBell 27th Oct 2021 12:25

"Maximum airspeed with landing gear down or in transit is 130 KIAS"

It's been in the RFM Part 1 Section 1 Operating Limitations since day 1, and applies to all variants.

Phil Kemp 27th Oct 2021 13:02

Skids are for kids. Sikorsky preferred stumps!
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....433e546103.png
World Speed Record holding H3/S61

albatross 27th Oct 2021 13:40


Originally Posted by gulliBell (Post 11133024)
"Maximum airspeed with landing gear down or in transit is 130 KIAS"

It's been in the RFM Part 1 Section 1 Operating Limitations since day 1, and applies to all variants.

Thanks very much for the info. Remembered the in transit limit but not the gear down and locked limit.

Winemaker 28th Oct 2021 00:08


Originally Posted by Brian Abraham (Post 11132332)
Bit hard to land a 76 gear up with the red "Landing Gear Up" caption front and centre and the head set tone, only heard of it being done once.

One chaps argument between the options.

https://kaypius.com/2016/08/14/wheel...kids-who-wins/

Wheels never caught on with the 412.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....28a250da1.jpeg

That looks like a tricycle tipping over accident just waiting to happen.......

megan 28th Oct 2021 10:24


Remembered the in transit limit but not the gear down and locked limit
Both the transit and gear down limit is 130.

gulliBell 28th Oct 2021 10:41

Yep, and you certainly hear the landing gear wheel well covers start to sing if they're left to dance in the breeze as you get close to 130.

chopper2004 28th Oct 2021 13:51

[QUOTE=Tango and Cash;11132702]I must say the S-76 on skids looks better than the 412 on wheels.... always thought the 412 on wheels looked like it had landed on top of a Cessna 172.[/QUOTE

Maybe they are mimicking Leonardo with the AW109 Trekker (my pic from recent Helitech)


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....28931574e8.jpg

and AW169 well the UH-169 variant for their Guardia di Finanza and Air Cavalry.

https://helihub.com/2020/08/13/leona...69-with-skids/

What is the old addage if it looks right it flies right?

Cheers


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