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chr 15th May 2021 18:32

oil temp difference between engines (twin)
 
Hi folks

is 20 C oil temp difference between engines on twin is normal ? of course both within the limits

Regards

helicrazi 15th May 2021 18:49


Originally Posted by chr (Post 11045236)
Hi folks

is 20 C oil temp difference between engines on twin is normal ? of course both within the limits

Regards

Can be quite normal, sometimes one engine is just alot newer.

Trend sheet is always handy in tracking these things

rotorspeed 15th May 2021 19:36

A 20 degree difference in oil temperature? Or a 20 difference in indicated oil temperature? Try swapping the sensors and see if the higher temperature follows the sensor. If so, change the sensor. If not, check the thermostats on the oil cooler circuits. An engine running 20 degrees hotter than another due to the engine itself is highly unlikely in my experience.

Sir Korsky 15th May 2021 19:36

If it's in the green it's a good machine ! If you fly the same aircraft all the time though, you should have a good idea of where the needles usually sit though. Just monitor frequently.

wrench1 15th May 2021 19:37


Originally Posted by chr (Post 11045236)
is 20 C oil temp difference between engines on twin is normal ?

In general, yes. For some models it is a "feature" of the aircraft.

Look Mum - no hands 15th May 2021 22:25

If you flew two singles and the oil temp indications were 20 deg different you'd probably never even notice.

gulliBell 16th May 2021 02:18

Even with the oil temps being within limits, if there is a change in trend over time it should be brought to the attention of a mechanic. If the 20deg temperature difference is normal for that aircraft, I would not worry about it.

megan 16th May 2021 04:15

Leaks in the oil cooler ducting downstream of the blower or partial blockage of same can be a cause. As Gulli says, the trend may tell you, but if its been there since an engine change it's still worthwhile having a check, duct leak, rag left in duct. Can't say I've ever seen such a discrepancy, but it's stretching the memory.

Theoretically I guess it's possible if the oil cooler bypass are out of sync but within the operating limits. My type specs were thermostat full open <57+-3°C, fully closed >67+-1°C, open >40PSID.

casper64 16th May 2021 08:31


Originally Posted by rotorspeed (Post 11045252)
A 20 degree difference in oil temperature? Or a 20 difference in indicated oil temperature? Try swapping the sensors and see if the higher temperature follows the sensor. If so, change the sensor. If not, check the thermostats on the oil cooler circuits. An engine running 20 degrees hotter than another due to the engine itself is highly unlikely in my experience.

Exactly...

Fareastdriver 16th May 2021 10:11

Try flying with the ball in the centre. :):):)

PEASACAKE 16th May 2021 11:10

I have seen an engine removed because it was running higher engine oil temp than the other engine, turned out it was the other engine running cooler...........

DuncanDoenitz 16th May 2021 12:37

Has this suddenly happened? Does one engine appear to warm-up quicker? Is the Delta-T consistent at all stages of flight? ? Pressures OK? What temperatures are indicated when the engines are cold?

If this was a Medical Forum we'd probably be advising you to talk to your GP/doctor/physician, not just other patients.. Talk it over with your Continued Airworthiness guy or Mechanic/Engineer; that won't cost you a penny. They can advise the most cost-effective troubleshooting if they are concerned about it; for instance transposing the indicators and/or the temp transmitters.

mykolamelynk 16th May 2021 18:34

Check that the oil cooler fan shaft is complete. In the 135, if oil cooler fan is broken the oil temp is about 20-30deg higher.
Spin the blades and look at the fan.

ShyTorque 16th May 2021 19:13

How do the indications compare when the engines have cooled down completely?

B2N2 16th May 2021 20:45

Is this in all phases of flight?
This could be a cowling issue or baffles or even mixture.
We need a little more info.
How old is the airplane, how old is the wiring, the gauges, when did the engines get overhauled, is oil consumption equal etc etc etc.
In the big scheme of things, no, this doesn’t have to be a problem but it could.

gulliBell 17th May 2021 11:50

Mixture? As far as I know all twin engine helicopters are turbine engine powered. Not sure how the mixture theory applies there.

skadi 17th May 2021 12:26


Originally Posted by gulliBell (Post 11046130)
Mixture? As far as I know all twin engine helicopters are turbine engine powered. Not sure how the mixture theory applies there.

You forgot the Kamov Ka-26 :)

skadi

B2N2 17th May 2021 13:47


Originally Posted by gulliBell (Post 11046130)
Mixture? As far as I know all twin engine helicopters are turbine engine powered. Not sure how the mixture theory applies there.

Yeah my mistake.
I missed that this thread was in the rotor section
Was thinking piston Twin fixed wing…
Disregard that last transmission.

Sir Korsky 17th May 2021 16:27


Originally Posted by B2N2 (Post 11046182)
Yeah my mistake.
I missed that this thread was in the rotor section
Was thinking piston Twin fixed wing…
Disregard that last transmission.

Prrune shame...worse than that stuck mike ! :)

chr 28th Jun 2021 20:40

to all of you , thanks for advice , sensor pin cleaning did help , all normal .

Regards


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