Running landings damage a runway???
I did a running landing on a runway in an R44 and the airport UNICOM came on the radio to ask me not to do that as it marks up the runway and if we want to do that sort of thing we should do it at another airport...
I didn't get into it with him on the radio, but... I know it does mark up the runway, but it seems to me that the marks are washed away with rain and the maneuver is not causing damage to the runway. It seemed more like any 'damage' is to the skid shoes, which we replace as they wear down. After rain you can not see any marks on taxiways or runways from running landings. Am I wrong? Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks |
I’ve noticed that fixed wing aircraft with wheels make horrid black tyre marks on landing...
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It's a legit concern. Go walk on the asphalt/tarmac sometime after doing one. You'll see they leave more than just cosmetic damage. Best to do them on the parallel taxiway of possible.
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Until the rain washes it off... We've been doing it for about 30 years, on an anti-skid runway and on regular asphalt runway, no marks after the rain.
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go to the grass
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Originally Posted by Hughes500
(Post 11042213)
go to the grass
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This thread is closely related to the “training on grass” thread, apart from the fact no one seems bothered about the skid marks on the grass unless you dig in and really wreck it!
As far as run ins on tarmac/concrete/asphalt/pavement.....whatever you call it in your part of the world you will always fine a jobs worth supervisor that will want to bitch about the damage you probably haven’t caused. Let’s be fair if someone didn’t moan about you and your helicopter what a dull life we would all lead!! |
The morning after a night SE training session in a B212 at Triploi Airport I was embarrassed to see the damage done to the surface by our running landings. All very encouraging to see the sparks from the skid shoes as we ran through the dark, but a permanent reminder for the airport with the grooves that we made.
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Originally Posted by John Eacott
(Post 11042453)
The morning after a night SE training session in a B212 at Triploi Airport I was embarrassed to see the damage done to the surface by our running landings. All very encouraging to see the sparks from the skid shoes as we ran through the dark, but a permanent reminder for the airport with the grooves that we made.
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Originally Posted by Phoinix
(Post 11042096)
Until the rain washes it off... We've been doing it for about 30 years, on an anti-skid runway and on regular asphalt runway, no marks after the rain.
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Originally Posted by nomorehelosforme
(Post 11042464)
John, I’m sure that was the least of Tripoli’s airport concerns..... or the start of it
In the middle of the airport was a mountain of baggage, left in the open on an area between taxiways. About 12-18 months earlier the Egyptian Consulate was dis-invited to remain in Tripoli following Egypt's split with the Soviet bloc. Unfortunately their luggage failed to make their flights home with them :( |
Originally Posted by Phoinix
(Post 11042219)
Most have skid shoes… grass is one hard stop :)
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Originally Posted by aa777888
(Post 11041926)
It's a legit concern. Go walk on the asphalt/tarmac sometime after doing one. You'll see they leave more than just cosmetic damage. Best to do them on the parallel taxiway of possible.
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casper64 :ok:
a permanent reminder for the airport with the grooves that we made |
Originally Posted by megan
(Post 11042734)
The fixed wing chaps would love you John, grooves stop hydroplaning.
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Originally Posted by Hughes500
(Post 11042213)
go to the grass
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I did think of saying "This IS a public-use (and funded) airport, right?" But bit my tongue as I fly in there relatively often and like the airport management.
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