Originally Posted by 212man
(Post 11006497)
probably wasn't read anywhere - more likely a conversation inbound on the ABN 056 radial while drinking and eating rig coffee and stickies, based on all the up to date inside information on company financials and contract status that line pilots are fully briefed on.
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Originally Posted by helicrazi
(Post 11006503)
So Apache havent given Bristow notice of termination? :oh:
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As said quite some while ago - Oil & Gas is far too volatile an industry for Babcock. When crises happen, the oil industry generally plummets and AA, SAR, Police and MOD assets are at least stable and often fully supported in their ops.
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Originally Posted by Rigga
(Post 11006520)
As said quite some while ago - Oil & Gas is far too volatile an industry for Babcock. When crises happen, the oil industry generally plummets and AA, SAR, Police and MOD assets are at least stable and often fully supported in their ops.
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Originally Posted by 212man
(Post 11006497)
probably wasn't read anywhere - more likely a conversation inbound on the ABN 056 radial while drinking and eating rig coffee and stickies, based on all the up to date inside information on company financials and contract status that line pilots are fully briefed on.
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So, presumably, these
European Search and Rescue (SAR) Competition Bonanza: Northern Norway SAR, Netherlands SARHC, Ireland SAR Aviation and UK's UKSAR2G - Aerossurance remain the domain of Babcock Public Sector Parasite plc? |
It’s NOT the full picture to say Bristow just lost Apache on cost. There were other factors .... ... apparently.
As someone else pointed out CHC have taken the opportunity to outsource and cut costs. Just before covid came along Bristow were about to be forensically taken apart by ‘streamlining specialists’ from the US. That’s not a rumour, it was stated by senior managers at events this time last year. Needless to say I hear this is yet to happen. This is the third big contract in a row that has not been renewed and that should have alarm bells ringing in Houston. Repsol are still pontificating and have been for months presumably after this news they will think it strengthens their hand for a further reduction on renewal. The new CEO basically lost a whole year while others were making themselves more competitive. Anyone dealing with Bristow from the exterior who are used to the current O&G trends for ‘synergising’ can’t help but wonder how bloated some parts of the business are and how antiquated some of the processes the outside world sees seem. No point blaming the BD guys if what they are selling is a quarter more expensive than anyone else because their costs are higher. Fingers crossed that job losses from all 3 operators can be kept to a minimum. |
Will CHC get the Babcock "Onshore" windfarm work out of Barrow in Furness and the Kinsale Gas Field work out of Cork ? Currently utilising EC135s ?????
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Is there any connection with the timing of the AerCap/GECAS deal and the CHC/Babcock deal with the Milestone involvement with all these companies? Is this all the consolidation left in the marketplace, or are there more stragglers out there?
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Originally Posted by dustycraphopper
(Post 11006613)
Will CHC get the Babcock "Onshore" windfarm work out of Barrow in Furness and the Kinsale Gas Field work out of Cork ? Currently utilising EC135s ?????
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Originally Posted by Mitchaa
(Post 11006620)
I guess the Babcock staff will become CHC staff under TUPE but what happens if there are a lot of duplications?
HR/Finance/Senior Managers etc? Does everyone from both companies that have duplications go into a potential redundancy pool or only those incoming from the other company? With the way the companies are set up (Legally to run an AOC) then there’s going to be a hell of a lot of duplication? I wonder what then happens with Pay agreements if one set of employees (CHC) are paid differently to the other set (Babcock) This isn’t going to happen overnight clearly. |
CHC taking over Apache was confirmed to staff by Bristow management on Tuesday night. CHC take over on 8 July with rumoured two S-92s. Apache evidently played the 120-day termination of contract game as CHC were cheaper.
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Originally Posted by tu154
(Post 11006642)
Does TUPE apply when you buy a company?
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Originally Posted by Mitchaa
(Post 11006653)
Using the old Google there I would agree..
https://www.stirling-uk.com/business...e-regulations/ TUPE does not apply when the business transfer occurs by:-
TUPE seems to apply when they want it to apply, seems like a dark art... |
TUPE seems to apply when they want it to apply, seems like a dark art... |
Originally Posted by helicrazi
(Post 11006657)
TUPE seems to apply when they want it to apply, seems like a dark art...
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A full takeover of one business by another is one of the clearest applications of TUPE. It is at the pure core of TUPE. I would be totally shocked if TUPE didn't come into play here.
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Originally Posted by Mitchaa
(Post 11006438)
And hopefully the “new CHC” grabs TOTAL by the balls and significantly increases their pricing and gets the market heading back in the right direction again.
I guess Babcock onshore will still exist and also any SAR work, this is merely its offshore division. |
Originally Posted by Mitchaa
(Post 11006753)
Yes I believe 2 x AW139 in Aberdeen.
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I think Babcock Australia will also include the H175s they have operating up in the Timor Sea.
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