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jolihokistix 15th Apr 2021 07:01

Sometimes simply removing the battery and putting it back in again will do the trick.

TURIN 15th Apr 2021 07:01

It does beg the question why was this not discovered during testing before it was launched?

netstruggler 15th Apr 2021 07:14


Originally Posted by TURIN (Post 11028470)
It does beg the question why was this not discovered during testing before it was launched?

All you'd need would be an environmental chamber where you could adjust temperature, atmosphere and gravity.

Jhieminga 15th Apr 2021 08:14

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingenu...tests_on_Earth

netstruggler 15th Apr 2021 08:30


Originally Posted by Jhieminga (Post 11028506)

The giant vacuum chamber sounds good. The bit of string simulating weak gravity a bit less so..

Anyone know what the pair of 'ears' near the root of each rotor are for?

ApolloHeli 15th Apr 2021 08:38


Originally Posted by netstruggler (Post 11028515)
The giant vacuum chamber sounds good. The bit of string simulating weak gravity a bit less so..

Anyone know what the pair of 'ears' near the root of each rotor are for?

This is just a guess but they look like Chinese weights to me. Their centrifugal moment counters the zero-pitch return moment from the rotor blades so that pitch control is more stable.

ShyTorque 15th Apr 2021 09:39

Maybe they haven’t paid an EASA bill.

cattletruck 15th Apr 2021 13:08

I hope they don't suffer a MITM (Martian-In-The-Middle) attack during the new software upload, or the dreaded green screen of death.
Seriously, I wonder how they assessed the risk of applying the software patch against the high potential of making things even worse. I really do hope it all works out in the end as the pictures would be out of this world.

netstruggler 15th Apr 2021 15:43


Originally Posted by cattletruck (Post 11028665)
I hope they don't suffer a MITM (Martian-In-The-Middle) attack during the new software upload, or the dreaded green screen of death.
Seriously, I wonder how they assessed the risk of applying the software patch against the high potential of making things even worse. I really do hope it all works out in the end as the pictures would be out of this world.

They'll definitely have some Martian Packets to contend with.


A Martian packet is an IP packet seen on the public Internet that contains a source or destination address that is reserved for special-use by Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA). On the public Internet, such a packet either has a spoofed source address, and it cannot actually originate as claimed, or the packet cannot be delivered.

mickjoebill 18th Apr 2021 02:55

The other martian lander, InSight,has had to restrict its experiments, as its solar panels are covered in dust.

Would be captivating and fab PR, if the helicopter could be used to fly across country/planet to blow dust off the panels of the dying lander:) The downdraft has to be equal to the weight of the helicopter, but are there any other factors to consider in this mission in relation to a thin atmosphere?


InSight has a small robotic arm, I wonder why these arms aren't designed to sweep dust from the panels?
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f0f5ea1dcf.png

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/i...ain/index.html
Mjb

jolihokistix 18th Apr 2021 03:46

Presumably that opened like an umbrella. Oops, did it go 'click'?

ETOPS 19th Apr 2021 10:59

Well done! - successful first flight.

TURIN 19th Apr 2021 11:17

Yep, well done NASA. Great achievement.


Arnie Madsen 19th Apr 2021 14:02

4 pound helicopter that requires 10 pilots .
This is progress ??

cavuman1 19th Apr 2021 15:28

View of first flight from 140 million miles away!

- Ed


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....02dadb9cd0.jpg

TWT 19th Apr 2021 20:13


Originally Posted by Arnie Madsen (Post 11030715)
4 pound helicopter that requires 10 pilots .
This is progress ??

It needs all those people to analyse the data sent back over an average of 140 million miles which takes more than 16 minutes to transit to Earth.

Flight control is autonomous :)

Well done Ingenuity crew !

retoocs 19th Apr 2021 21:13


Originally Posted by Arnie Madsen (Post 11030715)
4 pound helicopter that requires 10 pilots .
This is progress ??

Flying with rotor blades in atmospheric pressure of 0.095 psi is impressive, equivalent of over 100,000 ft.

atakacs 19th Apr 2021 21:37


Originally Posted by retoocs (Post 11030870)
Flying with rotor blades in atmospheric pressure of 0.095 psi is impressive, equivalent of over 100,000 ft.

Indeed. I was really surprised that it could be done at all. That being said not sure what actual use future developments will have. This is very much on the edge of practical use IMHO

highflyer40 20th Apr 2021 08:06


Originally Posted by Nigel Osborn (Post 10993291)
If they want a pilot to go to Mars to fly a helicopter in the future as it takes 7 years to travel each way, as I haven't got 14 years left in me, I think I'll give it a miss!

It takes 7 months, not years to travel each way.

Denti 20th Apr 2021 12:50

https://www.icao.int/Newsroom/Pages/...operation.aspx

Interesting quirk by NASA in celebration of that flight ;)

To be fair, that 7 month window from earth to mars only opens every 26 months, transfers outside that window will take considerably longer.


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