I still see 'Lynx' on the aircraft type on ADS-B labels. There was one flying in the West country this morning. Would Westlands still use it as they have military serial numbers?
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ISTR the problem was that they were installed a few degrees nose up in the Lynx - not sure if that was intentional but it was why the oil ran out of the jet pipes so much.
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
(Post 10908105)
ISTR the problem was that they were installed a few degrees nose up in the Lynx - not sure if that was intentional but it was why the oil ran out of the jet pipes so much.
Weald are rebuilding a MK7 for flight so hopefully one will grace the sky’s again. |
Originally Posted by mmitch
(Post 10908063)
I still see 'Lynx' on the aircraft type on ADS-B labels. There was one flying in the West country this morning. Would Westlands still use it as they have military serial numbers?
mmitch. |
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Originally Posted by gsa
(Post 10908131)
I remember somewhere in the back of memory it was 8 degrees so that they were flat in the intended cruise.
Weald are rebuilding a MK7 for flight so hopefully one will grace the sky’s again. To prove incompetence knows no bounds, RR came out with snazzy dipsticks for the Gem to reduce maintenance time and allow quick and accurate check of the oil level, but it turns out the pip-pin locking was no match for Somerset's largest vibrator, and the dipsticks used to pop out and liberate the engine oil. The answer was to apply some complex wire locking to the dipstick handle, thus turning a quick oil check into an F707 entry. Genius! There was no shortage of dipstick jokes in circulation. A Lynx fly away kit always included a couple of cans of oil and a Risbridger gun. That was one aircraft where you took engine oil checks seriously, compared to the Aztazou on the Gazelle, which seemed to run forever with no need to even top it off. Damn Frenchies. |
I'm guessing they will be Wildcats and that the type is considered a Lynx variant |
Not at the home of the ACC a few years ago |
I always remember the WG-30, an aircraft that no-one in the hangar even knew existed, arriving at Bristow Redhill on a demonstration flight. Among a hangar and ramp filled with S61's, 212's, 205, Wessex, Whirlwind, Bell 47, and Hiller 12's, they landed, shut-down and immediately proceeded to hang these little cans under the exhaust to catch the profusely dripping oil. I think all credibility and potential for a sale evaporated immediately!
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Originally Posted by Thud_and_Blunder
(Post 10908251)
Actually, quoting the Aldershot Concrete Corporation aka Army Catering Corps is entirely appropriate when it comes to commenting on the Lynx... which in my biased opinion should've never been made, with the materials diverted to making pots and pans or park railings. The only aircraft which tried - with no undue input from me - to kill me on more than one occasion. Lookout was comparable to sitting in a bungalow and peering out through the letterbox; tail-rotor control was risible; hydraulics overheated after 5 minutes hover ops in OAT 30+... and whoever thought that the Accessory Drive from the Wessex was a good thing to bring over to this monstrosity had a very advanced sense of humour. The Mildcat folk can crinkle all they like - the Lynx was an abomination bought purely to give work to a Somerset factory, and the fact that it served so long and with relatively few casualties is a testament to the professionalism of the RN, AAC and REME personnel who had to keep it flying. As for the WG30 "Lynx with a topbox"... so glad that was seen off before it put even more lives and livelihoods at risk.
"Lets put the Acc dive on the left side where the baggage bay door is so those unloading can be deafened. Also a good idea to have an upward opening baggage door so it can be cooked in the exhaust stream". "Job done, pizza anyone?" |
Originally Posted by TEEEJ
(Post 10907766)
ZG914 glamping at Wainfleet, Lincs
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Originally Posted by ericferret
(Post 10908344)
I think the Acc Drive man now works for Leonardo on the 169 design team.
"Lets put the Acc dive on the left side where the baggage bay door is so those unloading can be deafened. Also a good idea to have an upward opening baggage door so it can be cooked in the exhaust stream". "Job done, pizza anyone?" |
So when they put those upward facing diffusers on the exhausts did that solve the oil drip problem, or was there just an oil vomit on startup as it burped out the accumulated oil ?
PS - I never realised the Lynx was so hated by its pilots. |
Originally Posted by Two's in
(Post 10908179)
All of the above regarding the oil leak problem with the engines. Normally labyrinth seals not being effective after shutdown is not a problem, until you mount the engine 7 degrees nose up, when the oil runs out the back into the jet pipe. The lack of design coordination between RR and Westlands was mind boggling. It was always amusing when the Army Brass arrives to see the new Lynx, only to be confronted with sawn off oil cans hanging off the jet pipes with a skillfully crafted locking wire hook, looking more like a contender for a Romany festival than an anti-armour asset.
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Originally Posted by TEEEJ
(Post 10907766)
ZG914 glamping at Wainfleet, Lincs
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Originally Posted by Thud_and_Blunder
(Post 10908251)
Actually, quoting the Aldershot Concrete Corporation aka Army Catering Corps is entirely appropriate when it comes to commenting on the Lynx... which in my biased opinion should've never been made, with the materials diverted to making pots and pans or park railings. The only aircraft which tried - with no undue input from me - to kill me on more than one occasion. Lookout was comparable to sitting in a bungalow and peering out through the letterbox; tail-rotor control was risible; hydraulics overheated after 5 minutes hover ops in OAT 30+... and whoever thought that the Accessory Drive from the Wessex was a good thing to bring over to this monstrosity had a very advanced sense of humour. The Mildcat folk can crinkle all they like - the Lynx was an abomination bought purely to give work to a Somerset factory, and the fact that it served so long and with relatively few casualties is a testament to the professionalism of the RN, AAC and REME personnel who had to keep it flying.
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Originally Posted by Fonsini
(Post 10908661)
So when they put those upward facing diffusers on the exhausts did that solve the oil drip problem, or was there just an oil vomit on startup as it burped out the accumulated oil ?
PS - I never realised the Lynx was so hated by its pilots. |
Originally Posted by noooby
(Post 10908562)
Which is even more ironic when you consider the Accessory Drive for the 139 (when installed) is on the #2 side! They never got around to installing the actuator to disengage the engine though. All that is fitted is a spacer called the Dummy Actuator.
The 169 has a surprising number of design "gems" that are either annoying or expensive. |
Fonsini - not all pilots hated the Lynx but those who flew the Mk 1 did have a lot to contend with as Thud describes - the Mk 7 and 9 were great fun to fly even if the anti-tank capability of the 7 was distinctly average.
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
(Post 10908921)
Fonsini - not all pilots hated the Lynx but those who flew the Mk 1 did have a lot to contend with as Thud describes - the Mk 7 and 9 were great fun to fly even if the anti-tank capability of the 7 was distinctly average.
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