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John Eacott 19th Sep 2020 05:50

Squirrel vs Bambi, La Reunion.
 
This has popped up on YouTube, undated, so guessing it was recent and guessing it was a Bambi too? There must be some info out there, but does anyone else get the desire to clip the 'cameraman' around the head to keep the machine in the picture? :rolleyes:;)


Modtro 19th Sep 2020 08:50

There it is :ok::

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/221065

John Eacott 19th Sep 2020 08:55


Originally Posted by Modtro (Post 10888377)

Blimey! Well found, Modtro thanks.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6f3171b29.jpeg



https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....879c8cc1f.jpeg

212man 19th Sep 2020 12:08

I saw that too and shared your sentiments, albeit recognising that the guy with the phone was probably trying to avoid being at the scene of the accident! I’m assuming that the bucket acted as a drogue chute and gave some directional stability, which helped the outcome. Sounds like the main rotor also came into contact with it at some point.

Flying Bull 19th Sep 2020 14:30

The guy should have played the lottery...
Don‘t know wether the note from Airbus, that the bucket has to be either on a long line or rigged, so that it can’t reach the tail rotor was before or after this incident.

rudestuff 19th Sep 2020 15:22

OFML - quite an appropriate registration!

Old Age Pilot 19th Sep 2020 15:37


Originally Posted by rudestuff (Post 10888638)
OFML - quite an appropriate registration!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Nubian 19th Sep 2020 20:10


Originally Posted by Flying Bull (Post 10888612)
The guy should have played the lottery...
Don‘t know wether the note from Airbus, that the bucket has to be either on a long line or rigged, so that it can’t reach the tail rotor was before or after this incident.

The note has been in the Bambi manual for a long while, but there are still some pilots that don’t know how to read......like the pilot of the second machine in the clip.





BigMike 20th Sep 2020 01:01

The really scary bit is the damage to the tailboom... if that had seperated...

reefrat 20th Sep 2020 02:17

Never mind the framing. I would be taking steps long ones away from the crashing A/C

RJ Kanary 20th Sep 2020 03:13

On the brighter side.....At least the image was recorded in landscape instead of portrait. :)

krypton_john 21st Sep 2020 02:23

Incredible "landing" among the pointy lava rocks in one piece. Incredible.

The bambi may have been a useful stabilising drogue for flight. Wonder if it would have been possible to find a smooth empty surface for a run-on?

Did I mention, incredible?

dash34 21st Sep 2020 03:49

Perhaps the people taking the video standing on the road he planned to use for a run-on landing made things a bit trickier?

LRP 21st Sep 2020 20:14


Originally Posted by dash34 (Post 10889441)
Perhaps the people taking the video standing on the road he planned to use for a run-on landing made things a bit trickier?

Same thought came to mind when I watched that video.

ApolloHeli 21st Sep 2020 20:49

I would've expected him/her to complete an autorotative landing per the RFM procedure for a complete loss of TR (twist grip to IDLE) to avoid the uncontrolled yawing we see near the end of the video... The other helicopter surely would have been able to radio to him/her that his TR was ******, so that would confirm to him/her that a power-off landing is the correct procedure. Regardless, job well done getting it on the ground with all the meaty stuff inside still breathing and hats off to the pilot.

Nubian 22nd Sep 2020 05:19


Originally Posted by ApolloHeli (Post 10889924)
I would've expected him/her to complete an autorotative landing per the RFM procedure for a complete loss of TR (twist grip to IDLE) to avoid the uncontrolled yawing we see near the end of the video... The other helicopter surely would have been able to radio to him/her that his TR was ******, so that would confirm to him/her that a power-off landing is the correct procedure. Regardless, job well done getting it on the ground with all the meaty stuff inside still breathing and hats off to the pilot.

Really? What do you think would happen if he entered an auto with a drouge attatched to the tail....

krypton_john 22nd Sep 2020 05:50


Originally Posted by Nubian (Post 10890077)
Really? What do you think would happen if he entered an auto with a drouge attatched to the tail....

Pitch the nose down?

Nubian 23rd Sep 2020 20:33


Originally Posted by krypton_john (Post 10890087)
Pitch the nose down?

Yes, quite simple physics actually.

Lurching 24th Sep 2020 10:11

I simply don't understand how he went from a death spin to a pretty good landing given the terrain.
What did he do in those few seconds that the camera cut away?

Hot and Hi 24th Sep 2020 10:27


Originally Posted by Lurching (Post 10891549)
I simply don't understand how he went from a death spin to a pretty good landing given the terrain.
What did he do in those few seconds that the camera cut away?

Closing the throttle would have achieved this.

Paul Cantrell 24th Sep 2020 17:46


Originally Posted by Hot and Hi (Post 10891557)
Closing the throttle would have achieved this.

Yeah, it's always very impressive how fast the rotation stops once you close that throttle assuming a decent vertical fin.

This is, however, why I've never liked the throttles above arrangement. I think it's a big advantage having the throttles right under your hand on the collective where you can snap them off without having to remove your hand from the collective, and can yaw the aircraft as well ( especially in a piston ). I was disappointed when I flew the 505 and realized it had no twist grip... :ugh:

Hueyman 25th Jan 2024 20:43

This was our chief pilot, he did an incredible job and cold blood, hats off to him !

Gordy 26th Jan 2024 16:30


Originally Posted by Hueyman (Post 11583547)
This was our chief pilot, he did an incredible job and cold blood, hats off to him !

If only he had followed the advice in the Bambi manual he would not have had to use his skills......

212man 26th Jan 2024 23:00


Originally Posted by Gordy (Post 11584098)
If only he had followed the advice in the Bambi manual he would not have had to use his skills......

kind of like the famous Frank Borman quote:

A superior pilot uses his superior judgment to avoid situations which require the use of his superior skill.


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