Helicopter door falls off Air Corps helicopter Dublin
 

No one hurt - Falls into school grounds as reported by Irish independent

https://www.independent.ie/irish-new...-39224885.html

AGAIN,!!

We will never know the true cause and recommendations since it’s a military aircraft and they don’t share reports, but wait, isn’t it doing a Civil Hems role?

Oh you went there didn’t you. Don’t mention that bit out loud whatever you do. Lack of compliance and legality, lack of crew. Now lack of door!!! Whatever next?

Killarney too
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...unds-1.4259640

Similar, happened in Salthill to an RAF Merlin
https://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0628/90618-galway

Actually any incidents or accidents serious enough to warrant it are now investigated by AAIU along with ACFSS. I’d imagine this will fall into that category. The culture towards reporting and flight safety in general came on leaps and bounds in my time there, I’d have no expectation that anything would be swept under the carpet.

If lives are being saved by this service, surely that is a good thing. Other countries use military helicopters too in the HEMS role, apparently.

https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/20...s-south-adapt/

I suppose the main point is, there wouldn’t have been a service if the Air Corps hadn’t started it - no one wanted to pay for one!

The initial year of EAS was to assess whether or not the country was in need of a dedicated primary and secondary HEMS, as opposed to the existing inter hospital role.

Maybe!
 

Accident: Pilatus Aircraft Ltd, PC-9(M), 265, Crumlin East, Cornamona, Connemara, Co. Galway,12 October 2009: Report No 2011-016

The Air Accident Investigation Unit (AAIU) wishes to advise that the Final Report into the Irish Air Corps Pilatus PC-9(M) accident at Crumlin East, Cornamona, Connemara, Co. ...

They wouldnt share the report for the door loss in Killarney, please find me that report.

Probably still investigating it ! or like the door, it fell off a desk into a bin.

it was 2009, The report was finished they just wouldn't share with public, a few pilots asked for this report and we were told no. Hence the reason for my post.

Military Vs. Civil
Are they regulated by the IAA?
do they follow EU-OPS?
Do they fly CAT A?
Hums?
HFDM?

They are regulated by the MAA which is part of the Air Corps but I believe ( subject to someone who knows better coming along) that MAA will be part of DFHQ down the line.

The Part B for HEMS was written to be as close as possible to Part HEMS, but that may have changed.

Each hospital pad in use allows for a PC1 approach, usually the steep, confined area approach from the 139 RFM. As per civilian HEMS, landing sites at scene are not required to guarantee that, most of the ones I saw did.

Thanks for that,

No problem👍

nothing like the merlin incident
 

in that case the jettisonable emergency plug door fell out, in this case it looks like the whole sliding door

DM

Yeup, again.

I suspect a discussion, sans biscuits and tea will be held in Baldonnel along the lines of


JAS

Ahh the late great John Clarke, legend...

If MTOW is above 5700kg then PartHEMS requires PC1 at scene also.

We know the AW139 Cabin doors cant be removed for flight, but the Cockpit doors can be and then the performance is limited to CAT B.

The Air Corps perform all take-offs and landings with the door open and the crew-man keeping a lookout

my Questions is,

Would the Cabin door(s) open will this affect the Cat A PC1