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MightyGem 21st Jan 2020 19:14

NPAS News 2020
 
It would appear that there was a meeting last week. To discuss closing down Hawarden, and moving the aircraft and crews to Barton. That will put most of Wales without any effective air support.

The downward spiral continues.

Cabby 22nd Jan 2020 08:22


Originally Posted by MightyGem (Post 10668243)
It would appear that there was a meeting last week. To discuss closing down Hawarden, and moving the aircraft and crews to Barton. That will put most of Wales without any effective air support.

The downward spiral continues.

Could it be due to the use of drones in Wales? 15 staff trained in using them in North Wales.
https://www.thedrive.com/aerial/1756...to-fight-crime

Robbo Jock 22nd Jan 2020 11:18

Out of interest, how long can a drone remain airborne over an incident?

MightyGem 22nd Jan 2020 19:43


Originally Posted by Robbo Jock (Post 10668690)
Out of interest, how long can a drone remain airborne over an incident?

Not sure what the Police are using, but:
https://3dinsider.com/long-flight-time-drones/


Could it be due to the use of drones in Wales? 15 staff trained in using them in North Wales.
Yes, they have their uses, but NW only have two, according to the article. Plus, the operator has to have line of sight with the drone, rather limits the search area.

Robbo Jock 23rd Jan 2020 08:42

Thanks MG, interesting article. So with an absolute max flight time of around half an hour, I wonder how many incidents would require two operators (or both operators in NW) to keep continuous coverage overhead for the duration? Interesting problem for Operational Analysis.

ShyTorque 23rd Jan 2020 09:00

A more significant problem comes from having to drive the equipment and operator to the scene of the incident.

MightyGem 23rd Jan 2020 09:59

Looking for 4 pilots at North Weald.
https://www.npas.police.uk/jobs/line...sJd8u2Rx9bUzzo

It seems that the requirement for an Instrument Rating has gone. Just need to:

need to demonstrate instrument flying experience.

MightyGem 23rd Jan 2020 21:26

Some interesting stuff in the latest Police Aviation News:
http://www.policeaviationnews.com/Ac...anuary2020.pdf

Stitchbitch 24th Jan 2020 07:12

There’s a small NPAS related article towards the end of the news letter, looks like a new flight helmet maintenance service for Police rotor heads.

[email protected] 25th Jan 2020 07:13

Hope its better than the opening editorial drivel at the front - why use a magazine like this to make crowing political statements?

MightyGem 26th Jan 2020 20:17

Why not? It's the editor of a Police Aviation magazine giving his opinion o the ongoing debacle that is NPAS.

PANews 26th Jan 2020 21:23

Crab, as always "Other magazines are available" and I will guess they do not seek to make political statements or for that matter to research this specific subject in any great depth.

In all cases you may find that they are "Subject to the opinions of their advertisers."

You know what they say about "Grumpy Old Men"


MightyGem 3rd Mar 2020 20:46


Originally Posted by MightyGem (Post 10668243)
It would appear that there was a meeting last week. To discuss closing down Hawarden, and moving the aircraft and crews to Barton. That will put most of Wales without any effective air support.

It seems the move is going ahead. :ugh:

PANews 6th Mar 2020 07:35

Fixed wing to the rescue
 
In the absence of clear, concise and considered answers to their problems it appears that NPAS are now following Donald Trumps favourite kind of news.

Today Police Oracle, a well regarded subscription UK centric police news website ran with the 'news' that a New £2.5m aircraft added to national police air support fleet. The National Police Air Service has procured four new fixed wing aircraft. The National Police Air Service is adding four Vulcan P68R planes to its capacity to support all 43 forces across England and Wales plus British Transport Police....... Added to this there is a Twitter feed promotion of this historical addition to the NPAS fleet.

It seems that if you cannot bring to the public domain an answer to the many problems faced by NPAS, older unreliable airframes, poor central control and extended lines of reaction you bring in something 'new' to promote the service - even if it is not new and of little significant improvement in the service. False news. The 7th Cavalry riding over the crest of the hill and flying for hours on end to complete just a handful of missions. When properly deployed in a local mission profile the helicopters would complete a handful of missions in an hour and then go back for more.

Right, they have played that hand. What is next?


MaxR 3rd Apr 2020 08:47

I'd just like to thank Bryn for everything he says in the latest PANews April 2020

MightyGem 3rd Apr 2020 19:29


Originally Posted by MaxR (Post 10737855)
I'd just like to thank Bryn for everything he says in the latest PANews April 2020

The wheel slowly turns and eventually gets back to where it was before. Sort of.

Meanwhile the NPAS Annual Report for 2018/19 is still waiting to be signed off. :ugh::ugh:

[email protected] 4th Apr 2020 12:10

Now that is a much better editorial:ok:

It was only the bit about Brexit I objected to in the previous one.

PANews 4th Apr 2020 19:30

Ah yes, Brexit. That seems to have slipped into the recesses of the mind.

With the best will in the world there can only be a no deal departure given the stated date but I hope that politicians with minds scarred by the virus will find a sensible way forward....... I am taking no bets.

An editorial that stirs even one person is a good editorial!

MightyGem 29th Apr 2020 20:43

Looking for two new fixed wing pilots:
https://westyorkshirepolice.tal.net/...External/en-GB

PANews 30th Apr 2020 10:52

It was not so very long ago that the aeronautical media were warning of the dire consequences of a lack of pilots would have on operationalcapability [down] and the wage bill [up].

Oh how so much has changed in a few short weeks.

Hundreds of pilots with no job to go to for at least a few months - and it may be years - so those two fixed wing jobs will have a Q applying regardless of how NPAS HR play their cards.

For my part I plan to help the world asap by flying on airliners as soon as practicable and as often as possible...... Mind you the skies are quieter, bluer and less polluted.... maybe I should stay locked away for ever to save the planet?


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