Originally Posted by rrekn
(Post 10672462)
The EC135 has won many similar training contracts (UK, Germany, Australia) due to the fact it's a twin, but that also brings increased costs (and complexities for a student pilot), I think the combination of IFR capability combined with the low running costs of a single won the day.
Like all US Defense contracts, I'm sure there was a senator or congressman from Philadelphia that had something to do with it too... |
Originally Posted by Copter Appreciator00
(Post 10671508)
I was wondering what about the AW119 made it the choice? in what regards did it outduel the H135 and the bell 407? I suspect the open cabin forward-facing bench seat arrangement had something to do with it, as the 407 has the first pair of passanger seats facing rear. What else may have come into play in favor of the AW119?
Small cockpit tends to be an issue when you are training with an LPA over your flight suit. The 407's broom closet also does not lend itself to visibility and/or accessibility from the rear. Having flown both aircraft I can say that the 119 vastly outperforms the 407 anyday, even the vibrations are greater. Last but not least, a fully specd IFR high performing single at less than 5 millions per copy? |
TH-119 demo flight
Thanks to the Leonardo folks who arranged the TH-119 demo flight last week in Anaheim. So here are my photos from that morning...
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Airbus is formally protesting the selection of the TH-119 over their H135.
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And I spoke too soon as Airbus Helicopters are contesting the decision
https://www.janes.com/article/94133/...rd-to-leonardo |
Originally Posted by chopper2004
(Post 10681045)
And I spoke too soon as Airbus Helicopters are contesting the decision
https://www.janes.com/article/94133/...rd-to-leonardo |
Exercise options for 36 airframes
Additional Leonardo TH-73A as the United States Navy exercises options for another thirty six of the new helicopter trainer.
https://www.leonardocompany.com/en/p...3a-helicopters |
First Th-73A delivered
Philadelphia, 10 June 2021 – At a ceremony on its Philadelphia campus and under the backdrop of the Stars and Stripes, Leonardo officially delivered the first TH-73A training helicopter to the U.S. Navy earlier today. The ceremony was attended by Vice Admiral Kenneth Whitesell, commander of Naval Air Forces and Commander, Naval Air Force U.S. Pacific Fleet; Rear Admiral Gregory Harris, Director of Air Warfare Division (N98); and Captain Holly Shoger, Program Manager of Naval Undergraduate Flight Training Systems Program. Also attending the ceremony was Leonardo Helicopters Managing Director Gian Piero Cutillo and members of local, state and federal elected delegations, including Congressman Donald Norcross and Philadelphia Mayor‘
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6e7e44b8c.jpeg |
In the 70’s Harrier pilots used to do a few hours of helicopter training (in Whirlwinds) before they started their type training - I elieve to get them used to contribute=ogling things in a hover….?
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Originally Posted by Lurching
(Post 10662704)
How does that work?
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Looks like that paint job is from the '70s...
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I would suggest the blinding fast speed of the Whirlwind is what was prepping them for the Harrier.
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