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Tiger G

22nd Nov 2019 09:06

Mil helicopter crash Paraguay.

Didn't see this one posted here ??

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=k3mmx_1574371754

Jimmy.

22nd Nov 2019 09:52

I received some videos and posts.
https://www.campograndenews.com.br/cidades/interior/helicoptero-de-combate-ao-trafico-cai-na-fronteira-e-deixa-12-feridos

It's in Portuguese and a Google Translator tool can help you, but basically the UH-1 operated by the Paraguayan Air Force, in an anti-drug operation near border with Brazil. Engine failure, 12 on board and no fatalities (based on the Fuerza Aerea Paraguaya post below).
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....58da63ec40.jpg

Flying Bull

22nd Nov 2019 17:34

Well, watching the video, it really doesn't look like an engine failure...

Flying close to the ground - probably looking for a landing spot, turning, when a jerk goes through the helicopter - like it is hitting something with a skid - crashing

Silvio Pettirossi

22nd Nov 2019 17:57

Nearby Airport SBPP metar :

Code:

SBPP 212000Z 15014KT 9999 SCT025 35/15 Q1010

Code:

SBPP 211900Z 21002KT 9999 SCT030 35/12 Q1011

Quite warm indeed, at an elevation of around 2000ft that translates into an density altitude of around 5000ft. Reportedly they had 12 POB and around 350kg of fuel.
What kind of loads can a UH1 of this series lift at this conditions?

Jimmy.

22nd Nov 2019 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying Bull (Post 10624264)

I agree. Or a pedal or collective input with little to no power reserve, loss of NR and no height available to manouver and subsequent crash.
The engine failure information came from the Paraguayan Air Force post (actually "engines" failure in the post...).

Jimmy.

22nd Nov 2019 19:46

https://g1.globo.com/ms/mato-grosso-...ai-video.ghtml

Video from the factory's security cameras.

Flying Bull

22nd Nov 2019 20:43

Jimmy could well be spot on, watching the surveillance videos 😩

heliduck

22nd Nov 2019 23:13

Dynamic rollover - still moving sideways to the left when the right skid contacted the roof initiating the roll. VERY lucky for all to survive!

malabo

23rd Nov 2019 01:17

Quote:

Dynamic rollover

Unfriendly flying, beating the **** out of a compound. I’m sure those inside were intimidated by the tapping of the blades on the roof. Looked to me like the blades were already way coned, yawing right, descending -signs of overpitching and rpm loss- before the gear inevitably snagged something. And crazy maneuvering in a limited power helicopter, everything wrong that we teach not to do. Must be a Brazilian military thing. Darwin.

Jimmy.

23rd Nov 2019 02:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by malabo (Post 10624490)

Must be a Brazilian military thing. Darwin.

Paraguayan Air Force.

Jimmy.

23rd Nov 2019 03:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying Bull (Post 10624378)

Jimmy could well be spot on, watching the surveillance videos 😩

More than 650NM away, fortunately. :E

Hot and Hi

23rd Nov 2019 08:25

Running out of power. Over pitching. RRPM droop. Nose turns to the right as TR loses effectiveness.

The inherent risk of the often preached flat approach.

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