Heli Missing South of New Zealand
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All three found alive after wreckage found by a fishing boat.
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A good outcome.
The accident report will be an interesting read, particularly about the mission plan. That is a long way to fly over water at night and in bad weather and in such a remote part of the world. I wonder what their PNR was? Fuel calculations, and the rest of it. I'm guessing the patient they went to collect made alternative transport arrangements and he's doing OK? |
Gullibell - seems Hannibal was the one that found them on the beach. Now that would have been an interesting conversation
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Any idea what machine they were in?
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Late this afternoon, they arrived at Southland Hospital in Invercargill, where their condition will be assessed. |
Originally Posted by gulliBell
(Post 10453592)
A good outcome.
The accident report will be an interesting read, particularly about the mission plan. That is a long way to fly over water at night and in bad weather and in such a remote part of the world. I wonder what their PNR was? Fuel calculations, and the rest of it. I'm guessing the patient they went to collect made alternative transport arrangements and he's doing OK? |
Originally Posted by KiwiNedNZ
(Post 10453601)
..seems Hannibal was the one that found them on the beach. Now that would have been an interesting conversation
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Amen to that Gullibell - four funerals down there in four months was more than enough.
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[QUOTE=Weheka;10453623]Pretty sure they would have a fair idea about what they are doing and have no doubt done it before. I guess with these sorts of operations there are always increased risks involved and sometimes crap happens.[/QUOTE be very interesting to read the end story. |
Video posted on NZ Herald looks very much like a BK117 in the water.
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Would a BK117 be an odd choice of aircraft employed in the role of single pilot IFR over water winching at night?
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Originally Posted by gulliBell
(Post 10453789)
Would a BK117 be an odd choice of aircraft employed in the role of single pilot IFR over water winching at night?
Gold Standard in NZ. |
Surely SPIFR over water winching at night would be an odd choice - the type is irrelevant.
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Three on board, pilot, medic, and maybe the winchoperator, who could be a partially trained "copilot" joe without a certificate, same as Australia SAR did for many years with the 139. In the UK they seem to put much bigger aircraft into the water with much more crew, so don't know how any of that relates here. Nobody had a PLB on them? They're smaller than a pack of cigarettes these days, and reliable. All the stuff that worked and didn't work, will be a good read.
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The Winch Operator would not be carrying out the role of pilot monitoring, PNF, co-pilot (whatever you prefer to call it) whilst winching at night over water. The main reason that SAR operators do fly 2 pilot is that this type of flying is difficult at the best of times but night over water especially so.
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In the UK they seem to put much bigger aircraft into the water with much more crew, so don't know how any of that relates here. |
Single pilot VFR night winching!! Any NVG or 4 -axis AP? If not it's an absolute recipe for disaster.
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I suspect they had NVG. But good luck winching at night over water single pilot NVG without a capable doppler coupled 4-axis AP.
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Watching the news last night they weren't going to winch over water at night. They were flying to Enderby Island and stay in a DOC hut overnight, waiting for the fishing boat to get closer to them. Then at daybreak winch the guy off the boat and then fly back to Bluff. For some reason they went into the water only a couple of KMs from their destination.
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