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ericferret 12th Oct 2018 11:01

Have not seen fag ash on the floor of a North sea helicopter for 20 years. I remember Bonds chief pilot pulling the ashtrays out of any 105 he flew in prior to launching them into the farmers field at Strubby As to eating in the cockpit today just look under the crew seats. You could grow spuds under some of them.
Now and then a pilot complains. More than happy to show him where we keep the vacuum cleaner.

For 139 pilots the MCDU screens are not sealed and therefore make poor stands for coffee cups. Spill anything there and it rapidly goes into the expensive bits.

Fareastdriver 12th Oct 2018 13:02


Have not seen fag ash on the floor of a North sea helicopter for 20 years.
I retired from Bristows twenty years ago. With me went the best airfield homing aid--a trail of dog ends leading to the runway.

SASless 12th Oct 2018 13:09

You had some fierce competition.....I recall a couple of old timers that set the standard.

One, who always wore the same dark blue suit, maintained an appearance that looked like he used his suit coat front for an ash tray.....and the other from Down Under could maintain an ash on his fag that completely defied gravity and the inability of the Engineers to track rotors.

Boslandew 16th Oct 2018 12:29

EATING EN ROUTE
 
I'm surprised to hear it's considered to be a problem, it certainly wasn't in my day, 1975-1999. Whether it was five hour plus flights in the Chinook or shuttling around the Leman/Indie in 61's or 76's, a good scran was always high on the priority list. The Magnus used to do a smashing fried breakfast and we had one co-pilot who could finish his by the top of the climb on the way home.

industry insider 16th Oct 2018 14:43


and the other from Down Under could maintain an ash on his fag that completely defied gravity and the inability of the Engineers to track rotors.
....And who used to train instrument flying in Great Yarmouth on the 206. When reading the initial approach checklist during instrument training, when it came to no the item smoking and seatbesgn he would say as he was lighting another B&H “don’t worry about that crap, just concentrate on flying the approach”. What a great instructor he was though, taught me a great deal, the old Digger.

SASless 16th Oct 2018 16:40

So true Shag!

212man 16th Oct 2018 17:35

I was in Redhill being quizzed by a CAA FOTI as the final stage of my TRE test, when he asked if a pilot could be a TRE after reaching 65. I was slightly taken off guard and paused for a moment, looking out of the window as sagely as I could, when a Honda Civic parked outside and who should step out with his characteristic fag hanging out! In immediately remembered he was a TRE at Wycombe Air Park (after retiring from from BHL). Question answered!

Canuck Guy 17th Oct 2018 17:34

Rig food is always a fun gamble. Had everything from a lovely T-Bone steak to a stale sandwich with green moldy mystery meat.
You quicky become wary of every fart!

On topic, I wouldn’t worry much about peanuts. Those are a healthy food, which you’re not likely to ever find on a rig :}

Fareastdriver 17th Oct 2018 18:37

There was a major upset on the S76A when they introduced the second dinghy. It was installed against the captains door and it blocked the car type ash tray assembly that was built in. I had to go to Halfords and buy a stick on car ash tray to keep me going.

I was bringing a S76A GBJVZ from Antwerp to Redhill. It was a very early S76 with a small centre consol and old fashioned instruments and OBS which didn't work. As the weather was a bit iffy I flew back in formation with Avgas who was flying the other fully equipped one.

The normal place where I put my fags and lighter was not available to I tucked them against a ledge which had a blanking plate for the Loran or something. All went well until it was time to light up and my lighter wasn't there. Fingers found a big gap under the blanking plate which my lighter had dived in to.

We had a little screwdriver gismo around our necks to undo the Zeus fasteners on the cowling so I eased out of the formation a bit and removed the plate. There was my lighter nestled amongst all the cockpit's electronics' wiring.

I recovered it and at that point my maps migrated off the left hand seat down onto the floor by the collective. I needed my maps in case we got separated so I eased out to about four spans and did the old Bristol Sycamore trick when changing pilots.

I unstrapped, eased myself up and sat on the centre consol. swung my legs into the port footwell and pushed myself over into the left seat. I recovered my maps and reversed the procedure to get back again.

The aircraft did exactly what it was told; kept perfect formation.

Coming into Gatwick it was an ILS and my kit didn't work. I cleared it with ATC so I did a formation ILS (1/2 span) on Avgas and we broke cloud at about 600ft.

It took me back to my stovie days when we did formation GCAs on Bingo fuel.

SASless 17th Oct 2018 21:26

Odd how your formation flying skills pick up at those kinds of times.....along with some severe muscle strain in the vicinity of your nether regions.

solitaire 24th Oct 2018 18:09

Inbound after a long day in a S61. Checked box of food kindly provided. Nice curry but alas no cutlery! After much muttering and the odd swear word, discovered that the slide from the CRP5 computer (remember those?) makes a handy eating implement. Calm restored.

Happy days!

industry insider 25th Oct 2018 10:27


I was bringing a S76A GBJVZ from Antwerp to Redhill.
That ended up being my favourite S-76, it was the original North Denes aircraft, light and still had fuel pressure gauges for years!

Fareastdriver 26th Oct 2018 09:42

The only one with four proper doors.


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