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SASless 22nd Aug 2018 01:45

Little Rock PD Jet Ranger Crash
 
Ground runs can be hazardous.



jellycopter 22nd Aug 2018 02:04

that looks like a centre of gravity issue to me

John Eacott 22nd Aug 2018 02:15

Little Rock PD Helicopter crash August 2018
 
Happened last week but footage just released of a Bell 206 ground run gone bad: conflicting reports from various media and PD sources. Race car cowling is off, pilot's door swings open at one stage, second guy on the scene seems more concerned with getting camera footage than helping to look after the injured one trapped in the cockpit :sad:


Start at 1:00 to avoid watching nothing but a ground run!




https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8b81625861.png

http://www.nwaonline.com/news/2018/a...age-helicopte/

Ascend Charlie 22nd Aug 2018 03:19

Engineer doing the run? It got light on the skids, lifted off (a bit disorienting when the trolley starts to move underneath you), he almost got a stable hover but drifted back up to the pad, snagged a skid, and bye-bye.

skadi 22nd Aug 2018 05:18

May be that the guy with the leaf blower at the hangar door caused some severe turbulence :}

skadi

misterbonkers 22nd Aug 2018 06:15

Hydraulics?

Vertical Freedom 22nd Aug 2018 06:59


Originally Posted by skadi (Post 10230244)
May be that the guy with the leaf blower at the hangar door caused some severe turbulence :}

skadi

Come on mate it's a Bell :)


Hydraulics?
Naar they are pretty docile & easy to fly without boost, not like a Squirrel.....likely story is; 'twas the Engineer trying to outsmart the Pilot :=

GrayHorizonsHeli 22nd Aug 2018 12:28

A twitter story refers to it as a strong straight line gust of wind as the cause.
for the life of me i cant see anything indicating that hogwash

John R81 22nd Aug 2018 12:59

The dolly is not chocked, and after an initial period it begins to move forward. It creeps for several seconds starting from 49 sec. The machine is also light on the skids, as there is discernible yaw when you flick between early shots (20 sec) and later (1' 07"). I guess the chap at the controls reacted to the fwd movement by pulling back on the cyclic and .....

SASless 22nd Aug 2018 13:36

The Trees on the aircraft's left side show a lot of "wind" or "rotor wash".

The Dolly was not chocked.....no way to tell if had a brake system.

The Tail twitched a bit....then after a short bit of time the Dolly begins to creep forward...and the rest is history as they say.

[email protected] 22nd Aug 2018 14:01

Would have been nice to see evidence of some sort of fire extinguisher in the vicinity or some attempt to call for assistance from emergency services instead of grabbing a camera.

SASless 22nd Aug 2018 14:30

Hey....it is Arkansas...remember!

JBL99 22nd Aug 2018 21:05


Originally Posted by John Eacott (Post 10230184)
second guy on the scene seems more concerned with getting camera footage than helping to look after the injured one trapped in the cockpit

I'm not convinced that's what he's doing. Looks like a two way radio or phone call to me. Maybe I'm wrong.

Unregistered_ 22nd Aug 2018 22:20


Originally Posted by Ascend Charlie (Post 10230197)
Engineer doing the run? It got light on the skids, lifted off (a bit disorienting when the trolley starts to move underneath you), he almost got a stable hover but drifted back up to the pad, snagged a skid, and bye-bye.

Yep agree. Definitely a non pilot. Could have saved it a few times but didn't.

gulliBell 22nd Aug 2018 23:18

So who does the debrief on that one, the Chief Pilot or the Chief of Maintenance? No way was a pilot at the controls.

SuperF 23rd Aug 2018 00:01

Another story says it was a highly experienced pilot, recently retired from full time flying. comes in to help out...

If it was the pilot reporting a gust of wind, could have been his impression from the trolley moving, he thought it was taking off , had a gust of wind etc.. why he couldn't hold it in a stable hover after he got airborne is a mystery tho.

GrayHorizonsHeli 23rd Aug 2018 00:04

"The pilot, retired officer William "Bill" Denio"

no reference to his skill level, but they claim a pilot was at the controls...enough of the engineer references.

Vertical Freedom 23rd Aug 2018 01:38


Originally Posted by GrayHorizonsHeli (Post 10231094)
"The pilot, retired officer William "Bill" Denio"

no reference to his skill level, but they claim a pilot was at the controls...enough of the engineer references.

Ok GHH......it was the 'leaf blower' :eek: surely 'twas :ouch:

gulliBell 23rd Aug 2018 05:57

I've never known a 206 to get airborne in any amount of wind when the collective was full down.

nigelh 23rd Aug 2018 11:15

Pilot definitely lifted collective, early on you can see it is light on skids and he corrects yaw with pedals, at that point collective would have been lifted 3-4 inches as a guess . Then he pulls an armful . V hard to believe it is really a pilot at controls ... he had two very good opportunities to get it together...even just another meter of height would have saved the situation.
insurance claim will be interesting....


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