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zippiesdrainage 20th May 2018 01:25

Looking for clarification: Flying helicopters commercially in Europe with an FAA cert
 
Doing a bit of reasearch and trying to get a clear answer. I’ve seen people discussing that FAA licenses needing to be converted to EASA and several checkrides, but others say if it’s an American operator with N number ships, then it’s ok (similar to what PHI can do in the Middle East).

It would be great to entertain commercial options in Europe, but I have no interest in spending a few thousand to be retested a half dozen times to convert my licenses.

thanks

RVDT 20th May 2018 02:43

N reg OK and US operator OK but the operator would need cabotage rights and freedom of the air rights.

You would only expect it to happen if the local commercial operators were not capable of it. Unless that is the case - I doubt it would happen.

EASA tickets require rights to work and live as well - another stumbling block some of the time.

zippiesdrainage 20th May 2018 13:18

Thanks for the clarification. Is the process still about 3 checkrides to transfer a license over to fly commercially?

Aesir 20th May 2018 14:02

It´s pretty complicated and quite frankly not worth it unless you have a pretty good job lined up with an operator.

There are 14 (fourteen, I kid you not) EASA theoretical tests required. Might be a few less if VFR only. Then you can start training for the CPL skill test.

There will be at least 4 checkrides before you can start working for an operator. You will need theoretical conversion course for the operator, CRM, Dangerous goods, first aid, fire fighting, ESE, Security & Heslo or part-SPO, part-M training for preflight and maintenance and possibly task training for maintenance related items depending on operator.

1. CPL skill test
2. Type rating skill test (You need type rating on each and every helicopter type in EASA).
3. Route/Role/Area & OPC conversion training and check (The operators checkride, probably similar to your part 135 checkride?).
4. Line training and line check

This is VFR single pilot only. There is more for multicrew & IFR.

VP-F__ 20th May 2018 19:49

Maybe I read this incorrectly but I thought that a pilot with an FAA license could fly an EASA aircraft, eg a G reg, for up to a year before needing an EASA license.

muermel 20th May 2018 20:58

Stay in the US. I would move to the US to fly helicopters in a heartbeat but not the other way around. More jobs, better pay, longterm career outlook and paths, no EASA to deal with, no age 60 rule and no flight duty time regulations... the list goes on and with many more reasons not to come to Europe to fly helicopters.

nigelh 20th May 2018 21:46

i have flown G reg helicopters of all types for 40 years on an FAA ticket and still do !

whoknows idont 21st May 2018 18:13

I think it's about time to build a wall between Europe and America to keep all these American immigrants from taking our jobs...
MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN! :}

rudestuff 21st May 2018 19:27


Originally Posted by nigelh (Post 10152442)
i have flown G reg helicopters of all types for 40 years on an FAA ticket and still do !

But only as a private pilot...

nigelh 21st May 2018 21:52

Of course 🙈....ALL my flights are private !!

Helisweet 22nd May 2018 09:49

EASA paper Captains think Helo Ops are like airlines.


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