PPRuNe Forums - Costs/Categories N reg Robinson R22/44

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)

- Rotorheads (https://www.pprune.org/rotorheads-23/)

- - Costs/Categories N reg Robinson R22/44 (https://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/608317-costs-categories-n-reg-robinson-r22-44-a.html)

valve guide

30th Apr 2018 07:10

Costs/Categories N reg Robinson R22/44

Need some help and advice. Currently own a R22 on G reg and do around 40/50 hours per annum. Now I don’t want to get into the argument about renting vs owning as I like the fact that I can walk out my farm and fly whenever I like, so.....I am thinking of upgrading to a R44 and wondered what currently would be the advantage, if any, of moving to the N reg. Since I only got privately is there a different category I could have the Heli in, do N reg have “ARC’s” and 6 monthly (for me 20 hours) services. So any advice or ideas of costs for a 22 or 44 would be really helpful. As I said, don’t want to get involved in the own vs rent. Thanks guys and gals.

chopjock

30th Apr 2018 08:39

Well you may find it cheaper to insure on the N register as there is no 12% insurance premium tax...

206 jock

1st May 2018 06:27

Just make sure you factor in all the costs before jumping to the N reg. The costs of maintaining the Trust can rack up: essentially, a non-US citizen cannot own a helicopter registered in the USA,so it has to be owned by a Trust registered in Delaware and companies set up to do this, charge you for the privilege. Get a quote from someone like Heritage.

I would be surprised if it made sense to transfer an a/c from EASA reg to the N and then run it. If you are thinking of importing from the USA, it might be different.

chopjock

1st May 2018 08:44

Quote:

Get a quote from someone like Heritage.

I would not recommend Heritage. They do not "trust" their punters and absolutely charge over the top for anything they can... I would recommend Southern Aircraft Consultancy.

RMK	1st May 2018 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by 206 jock (Post 10134866)

a non-US citizen cannot own a helicopter registered in the USA,so it has to be owned by a Trust registered in Delaware and companies set up to do this, charge you for the privilege.

This will cost around $3000-$3500 per year plus initial setup costs

md 600 driver

1st May 2018 22:20

RMK
I think you could knock a zero off that for trustee costs per year try southern aircraft consultancy they are £375 per year

i have had 3 n reg with them no problems

RMK	4th May 2018 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by md 600 driver (Post 10135583)

RMK
I think you could knock a zero off that for trustee costs per year try southern aircraft consultancy they are £375 per year

i have had 3 n reg with them no problems

That will be an "Umbrella Trust", they have one SPV and plug each "helicopter entity" under it as a segregated cell. Yes, can work fine, but may not work for some circumstances re tax/nationality/jurisdiction.

FSXPilot

4th May 2018 13:04

Whilst there is no Robinson requirement for a 6 monthly there are Lycoming requiremetns for a 4 monthly oil change Lycoming SB480E. Do you already have an engineer in mind who has an FAA License or will you also need to look for a new engineer?

valve guide

5th May 2018 05:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by FSXPilot (Post 10137965)

I don’t have anyone at the moment so will need to look for someone if I go down this route. A lot of people say it’s much easier in the States and just trying to see if it is for a private pilot.

All times are GMT. The time now is 22:43.