Bell 427 Helicopter FAA Initial type training
Hello everyone, where in the USA can i do the FAA Initial type rating on the Bell 427 Helicopter? Secondly, under the FAA Regulations for type rating, it is classified under what type name? Thanks
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Is there a requirement for a type rating for the 427? I'm not very au fait with the FAA regs but isn't it below the weight requirement for a type rating. More than happy to be corrected as I'm interested to know
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There is no type rating below 12500lbs.
As of this year there are no 427 available for training in the US. We tried. |
Originally Posted by GoodGrief
(Post 10003399)
There is no type rating below 12500lbs.
As of this year there are no 427 available for training in the US. We tried. |
Originally Posted by Evil Twin
(Post 10003360)
Is there a requirement for a type rating for the 427? I'm not very au fait with the FAA regs but isn't it below the weight requirement for a type rating. More than happy to be corrected as I'm interested to know
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It's simple. Under the Rotorcraft category there is a helicopter class rating. You can fly any helicopter covered by the helicopter class rating, which is any helicopter less than 5700 kg. It matters squat whether it's an R22 or an S76, they are all covered under the helicopter class rating by virtue of their weight.
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Bad example, the R22 and R44 are not.
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Originally Posted by GoodGrief
(Post 10003529)
Bad example, the R22 and R44 are not.
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427 is a bit of a rare machine.
How many in existence - 75? Not one of Bells shining moments - 2 engined 407? |
I know a very experienced 427 C&T pilot in Europe who may be able to help, providing he is able to under your local rules.
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Longhorn Helicopters purchased the 427 simulator from Bell and I believe it is still operational. You can find them right here: https://www.longhornhelicopters.com
They would be a good place to start. I personally know a few 427 instructors from my time at Bell, however as far as I know there is no access to an actual airframe. The only operator that I can think of in the US that operates a 427 is the Salt River Project in Arizona (?). I believe they do all their training in house. |
Last time i saw that sim it was in Denton and absolutely not working.
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So no functional bell 427 sim in the FAA land? How about EASA land, any sim in Europe?
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Originally Posted by vaqueroaero
(Post 10004172)
Longhorn Helicopters purchased the 427 simulator from Bell and I believe it is still operational. You can find them right here: https://www.longhornhelicopters.com
They would be a good place to start. I personally know a few 427 instructors from my time at Bell, however as far as I know there is no access to an actual airframe. The only operator that I can think of in the US that operates a 427 is the Salt River Project in Arizona (?). I believe they do all their training in house. |
Originally Posted by BigMike
(Post 10003820)
I know a very experienced 427 C&T pilot in Europe who may be able to help, providing he is able to under your local rules.
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Try these:
817 625 5705 [email protected] If that doesn't work, then I have other means of making contact. |
Just 0.02 worth, the FAA's NSP does not list an approved FSTD for the 427.
https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/nsp/data_lists/ |
Here in Auckland there are either 2 or 3 Bell 427s. One at Heletranz in their hangar and one at Inflite. Maybe they are worth a shot.
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There’s a 427 in Linden NJ at HeliNY. Worth a shot?
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Originally Posted by RVDT
(Post 10003595)
427 is a bit of a rare machine.
How many in existence - 75? Not one of Bells shining moments - 2 engined 407? |
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