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MightyGem 16th Aug 2017 21:03

The unions aren't happy:
https://www.energyvoice.com/oilandga...ource=facebook

Lonewolf_50 17th Aug 2017 15:05


Originally Posted by henra (Post 9857415)
And the word is the Tiger lost the Rotor blades not the entire head.

That would make the Tiger accident more similar to the US Army Apache that was lost near Galveston last year, though in that case the root triggering cause of a blade letting go may be different. Only one blade needs to depart for the whole thing to go all wrong in fractions of a second.

birmingham 21st Aug 2017 13:49


Originally Posted by MightyGem (Post 9864116)

It is clear that many operators are also keen to see the root cause of this accident - even in countries not so influenced by the opinions of North Sea workers here is the latest from Flight Global

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...icopte-440147/

rotor-rooter 9th Sep 2017 17:09

The actions so far, doesn't appear to have gained a lot of passenger confidence either.

Helicopter survey suggests '62% unlikely to fly in Super Pumas again' - BBC News

helicrazi 9th Sep 2017 19:45

Or pilot confidence

birmingham 26th Sep 2017 16:48

Flight Global showing that the industry is still adopting a wait and see approach

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...suppor-441046/

Rare, possibly unique, for such an incident to be so thoroughly investigated, so much known, but unable to identify the absolute root cause more than a year on and after two events.

How much of the reticence do you think is down to weak demand and how much to safety worries?

Cyclic Hotline 3rd Oct 2017 17:41

Pull out all the stops?

Airbus boss flies in Super Puma in bid to demonstrate its safety - BBC News

piperpa46 3rd Oct 2017 17:50

I'd like to see the report stating the cause of the accident. There must be one since Airbus Helicopter has a full understanding of it.
And it doesn't really send a good signal when you won't answer questions:
Emerging from the helicopter, Airbus CEO Guillaume Faury made a statement but would not answer questions.

Fareastdriver 3rd Oct 2017 18:55


Airbus boss flies in Super Puma in bid to demonstrate its safety - BBC News
Maxwell went for a ride in a BV234 just after the Sumburgh crash 'to demonstrate its safety' It didn't stay on the North Sea very long.

Self loading bear 3rd Oct 2017 18:58

Extended testing
 
I see a good opportunity to test the effectivity of Airbus media campaign:

Have Airbus CEO Guillaume Faury picked up from his lawn by company H225 every morning for the daily ride into the office.
Let his wife wave him off.

Ask his wife how she feels:
- after 1 month
- after 3 months
- after a Year

SLB

roundwego 4th Oct 2017 03:46


Originally Posted by Fareastdriver (Post 9913154)
Maxwell went for a ride in a BV234 just after the Sumburgh crash 'to demonstrate its safety' It didn't stay on the North Sea very long.

The 234 remained operating for many years (9 if I remember correctly) in the North Sea after the Sumburgh crash. Helikopter Service in Norway operated them very successfully. It was economics and commercial requirements which took them off the North Sea eventually.

nowherespecial 4th Oct 2017 08:31

SLB, that Sir is a bloody good idea!

birmingham 4th Oct 2017 09:48

"Airbus said it has a full understanding of the cause of the crash and, after introducing a range of measures, is confident it could not be repeated".

Does this mean that Airbus has access to a draft of the final report? While I agree it is very clear what happened I haven't yet seen anything in the public domain that would lead me to conclude I had a full understanding of the cause of the crash.

Twist & Shout 4th Oct 2017 10:24

Airbus have consistently treated the truth with disdain during these tragic events.
One of the low lights was claiming the Norway crash was a “mtce issue” within 24hrs of the multiple fatalities. (All but stating the pins were left out of the lift bars)
It would be an obvious act of naivety to believe anything that they say now, unfortunately.

FloaterNorthWest 4th Oct 2017 17:43

https://www.oilandgaspeople.com/news...r-puma-future/

Apate 4th Oct 2017 19:02


Originally Posted by Twist & Shout (Post 9913815)
Airbus have consistently treated the truth with disdain during these tragic events.
One of the low lights was claiming the Norway crash was a “mtce issue” within 24hrs of the multiple fatalities. (All but stating the pins were left out of the lift bars)
It would be an obvious act of naivety to believe anything that they say now, unfortunately.

Totally agree.

Airbus = :ugh::ugh::ugh:

casper64 4th Oct 2017 20:58

Interesting video on Airbus website:
lInfo Centre - Airbus Helicopters

EESDL 5th Oct 2017 14:11

Airbus boss Faury flies in H225 to demo confidence in type
 
Whilst reading the article did anyone else think of a government minister getting his daughter to eat a hamburger during the 'Mad cow' crisis?

helicrazi 5th Oct 2017 14:54

There is an energy voice survey now being done asking if you would fly in one again,

after you click your decision it tells you the current polling results and how many have voted

Surprisingly at the moment, its 86% would fly in it again and 10% no, seems a bit different from the airbus poll

for you maths gurus, there are 2 other options to make up the remaining percentage. cant remember what they were, one was something about being happy with the s92 as replacement.

Bing 5th Oct 2017 15:05


Originally Posted by EESDL (Post 9915280)
Whilst reading the article did anyone else think of a government minister getting his daughter to eat a hamburger during the 'Mad cow' crisis?

Oh no, there was actually a scientific case, at the time, that eating beef was a safe thing to do based on evidence. Whereas this seems to be based on reducing the gearbox life to 25% of what it's supposed to be based on crossing fingers.


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