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[email protected] 3rd May 2017 21:40

Yes, in his own words 'I pumped the collective all the way to the ground' - and then he crashed - great technique:)

Bladestrike 3rd May 2017 21:40

I was over controlling the collective in a 47 coming out of a deep hole somewhere in Northern Ontario woods in the 80's and the pax asked what I was doing, and I made up some BS that it was an advanced technique......maybe the rumour grew from there.....

SASless 3rd May 2017 21:59

My experience with the Bell 47 at Redhill/BHL with the Ancient Old Fellow from Oz....the one who could keep a three inch ash on a two inch fag.....and called everyone "Shag" ....was One pulled the Collective to the "Up" Mechanical Stop...keeping the Throttle hard pressed against the "On" Stop....and "Wiggled" the Cyclic to break friction a bit on one Skid or another.....and you were off like a Herd of Slugs to go do Confined Areas. Landing was much easier....you backed off the Up Stop a smidgen and held some airspeed till you hit the parking spot....then undid what you did to get airborne less the Cyclic wiggling!

Flying Binghi 4th May 2017 02:50

Yeah... I'd reckon pumping the collective is probably not as efficient as having the collective in the exact right spot for any given manoeuvre.

Many years ago i did me mustering learning in a 300. The instructor got me to use the pumping technique to extricate me-self from the decaying rotor/eng situations i got into amongst the trees. I noted that when the instructor thought i'd got me-self in too deep and took over that he did not use the pumping technique.

Thinking about it, one way to look at the pumping technique is it is much like an early car brakes ABS system that doesn't know exactly where the sweet spot is - i.e., put the brakes on hard, feel the lock up, release brakes and feel the free role, put the brakes on hard again... etc.

A pilot with time on type in the relavent operation would likely just put the collective/throttle in the sweet spot for any particular manouver with out much thought of it. To the novice on the other hand, who is already jerking the collective up and down in easy flight, the pumping technique is probably the only way they will find that sweet spot - albeit briefly between strokes.






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