EASA External Load/Sling Rating
Does anyone know what the latest is regarding external load work in Europe/EASA? Is there a formal requirement for a sling rating?
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There is no "sling rating".
Sling load is covered in EASA Part-SPO (Special Operations). https://www.easa.europa.eu/document-...art-spo-amc-gm |
There is a proposal that there will be one but it is down to the operator but broken originally into 5 areas
HASLO 1 line <20m HASLO 2 line > 20 m HASLO 3 Forestry HASLO 4 Construction HASLO 5 heavy lift > 1.5 tonne HASLO 5 been withdrawn to become qualified in HASLO1 10 hours instruction 100 cycles and on it goes To be an instructor 500 hours of lifting plus more than 1000 cycles This is what you need to look at 06_Eric Bennett EASA_PCDS HEC HESLO (1).pdf |
Thanks for the info.
Hughes500 - Where can I read this - 06_Eric Bennett EASA_PCDS HEC HESLO (1).pdf . I am not that good at navigating the EASA website... |
EASA helicopter operations rulemaking
Eric BENNETT Air Operations Rulemaking Officer PCDS HEC HESLO UPDATE TE.GEN.00409-001 Rulemaking (Air Operations): HEC, HESLO operations: Opinion to be published Q1 2017 Personnel Carrying Device Systems (PCDS) used in HEC. Simple PCDS no longer required to be airworthiness approved 2 HEC, HESLO operations: Opinion to be published Q1 2017 HEC/ HESLO HEC/HESLO categories to be simplified HEC/HESLO instructor criteria to be simplified Increased focus on flight training. 3 HESLO TRAINING HESLO TRAINING Current Proposed Experience required Before starting training Before end of training Theoretical training Yes Yes Practical training Not required • Dual control • Supervision from cockpit, • Supervision from ground Checking Not required Yes (but no recurrent checking) HESLO instructor • 500 hours in the HESLO category • Experienced as FI/TRI • • 500 hours HESLO + Qualified and 10 hours in the HESLO category Experienced as SPO instructor prior to 21/4/17 OR ‘teaching and learning’ module of FI/TRI 4 HESLO CATEGORIES HESLO CATEGORIES Current Proposed HESLO 1 Short line <20m Short line <20m HESLO 2 Long line >20m Long line >20m HELSO 3 Logging Specialised HESLO Long list of activities... HESLO 4 Construction Advanced HESLO tower erecting, wire stringing, disassembly of masts and tower HESLO 5 Heavy lift (>1,5T) Deleted HESLO 1 and 2 training can now take place in short succession HESLO 1 and 2: Minimum practical training defined. 5 HESLO 1 training HESLO 1 CPL(H) or ATPL(H) PPL(H) only for non-commercial operations Minimum 300 hours PIC (H) Minimum 10 hours PIC on type Type rating completed HESLO ground instruction completed Task specialist syllabus reviewed HESLO 1 flight instruction completed: Minimum 5 hours/50 HESLO cycles HESLO 1 flights under supervision completed. Minimum experience 8 hours/80 HESLO cycles / 5 HESLO missions Minimum 300 hours PIC(H) HESLO 1 proficiency 6 HESLO 2 training HESLO 2 CPL(H) or ATPL(H) PPL(H) only for non-commercial operations HESLO level 1 completed Type rating completed Minimum 10 hours PIC on type HESLO 2 ground instruction completed Task specialist syllabus reviewed Minimum 500 HESLO1 100 HESLO cycles HESLO 2 flight instruction completed: Minimum 2 hours/20 HESLO cycles with long line HESLO 2 flights under supervision completed Minimum experience 5 hours/50 HESLO 2 cycles / 5 HESLO 2 missions HESLO 2 proficiency 7 HESLO 3 training HESLO 3 CPL(H) or ATPL(H) PPL(H) only for non-commercial operations HESLO level 1 completed to 20m Min. 500 HESLO cycles Type rating completed Minimum 10 hours PIC on type HESLO 3 ground instruction completed Task specialist syllabus reviewed Practical Task specialist training for logging HESLO 3 flight instruction completed HESLO 3 flights under supervision completed HESLO 3 proficiency 8 HESLO 4 training HESLO 4 CPL(H) or ATPL(H) PPL(H) only for non-commercial operations Minimum 1 000 hours (H) HESLO level 2 or 3 completed Minimum 3 000 2 000 HESLO cycles Type rating completed Minimum 10 hours PIC on type HESLO 4 ground instruction completed Practical load preparation training HESLO 4 flight instruction completed HESLO 4 flights under supervision completed HESLO 4 proficiency 9 HESLO instructor (f) HESLO instructor The HESLO instructor should be assigned by the operator on the basis of the following: (1) the HESLO instructor for pilots should : (i) be suitably qualified as determined by the operator and have a minimum experience of 500 hours HESLO; operations in the appropriate HESLO level on which instruction is to be provided (ii) have at least 10 hours HESLO experience as unsupervised PIC in the appropriate HESLO level on which instruction, supervision and proficiency assessments are to be provided; and have attended the ‘teaching and learning’ part of the flight instructor or type rating instructor training, or have had an experience as an aerial work instructor prior to 21 April 2017 (iii) or type rating instructor training; as well as experience in instructing according to the flight instructor 10 HESLO Mountain experience (i) Prior to commencing training: (A) 300 hours helicopter flight experience as PIC, which should be increased to 500 hours experience as PIC for mountain operations; and (iii) Before acting as unsupervised PIC: (A) For HELSO 1, 300 hours helicopter flight experience as PIC; and (4) (F) At least 20 hours gained in an operational environment similar to environment of intended operation (desert, sea, jungle, mountains, etc.). Pilot proficiency: Before acting as unsupervised PIC, pilot proficiency has been assessed as sufficient for the intended operations and environment under the relevant HESLO type, by a HESLO instructor nominated by the operator. 11 HESLO: CHANGING HELICOPTER TYPES (iii) Before acting as unsupervised PIC: (CE) For HESLO 3 and 4, 1530 hours on the helicopter type, performing HESLO 1 and 2 operations. Where a pilot has accomplished 50 hours in HESLO 1 and 2 operations, the 30 hours experience on the helicopter type may be reduced to 15 hours. 12 CRM for HESLO and HEC task specialists Introduced as such (e) Task specialists Before acting as task specialist, he/she should demonstrate to the operator that he/she has been trained appropriately and has the required skill and knowledge. (1) Initial training (i) The initial training of task specialists should include at least: (3) Briefing of task specialists (K) for task specialists seated in the cockpit and whose tasks are to assist the pilot, the relevant CRM training elements as specified in ORO.FC.115. (iv) for a task specialists who has not received the relevant elements of CRM training as specified in ORO.FC.115, the operator’s crew coordination concept including relevant elements of crew resource management. 13 HEC CATEGORIES HEC CATEGORIES Current Proposed HEC 1 Short line <25m Altitude < 3000m Short line <25m HEC 2 25m < line < 50m Altitude between 3000 and 3500m Long line >25m HEC 3 Line > 50m Altitude >3500m Deleted 14 (ii) (iii) Pilot experience prior to commencing the training: (A) 1 000 hours helicopter flight experience as PIC, of which 500h should be gained in mountainous areas for training in mountain operations; Pilot experience prior to commencing unsupervised HEC flights: (A) HEC flight instruction completed. (B) 1 000 hours helicopter flight experience as PIC (D) for HEC 2, HESLO type 2 completed Pilot proficiency prior to commencing unsupervised HEC flights: HEC TRAINING AND MOUNTAIN EXPERIENCE (3) (C) for mountain operations, 500h flight experience as PIC in mountain operations. pilot proficiency has been assessed as sufficient for the intended operations and environment under the relevant HEC level, by a HEC instructor nominated by the operator. 15 HEC INSTRUCTOR (ii) HEC instructor: The HEC instructor should be assigned by the operator on the basis of the following: (A) the HEC instructor for pilots should: - hold or have held flight instructor rating and should have a minimum experience of 100 cycles in HEC operations in the appropriate HEC level on which instruction is to be provided; and (B) the HEC instructor for task specialists should be suitably qualified as determined by the operator and have at least 2 years of experience in HEC operations as a task specialist. at HEC levels equal or greater to that , supervision and proficiency assessments are - have attended the ‘teaching and learning’ part of the flight instructor or type rating instructor training, or have had an experience as an aerial work instructor prior to 21 April 2017 16 |
What Hughes500 is trying to say: we are running out of approved longline pilots pretty soon😝
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Oh goody.....
I got over 10,000 longline, Brit passport CAA, FAA and Canadian licences. Shouldn't mind a part time job on me time off. Paid vacation back to Europe. What's not to like....:ok: |
I've got a HUGE tub of Timmy's in the kitchen - better get here quick! :)
phil |
Damn you Phil, now I'm tempted. Unfortunately stuck in a gold mine flying support for five drills, kinda busy right now, what with crew changes, slinging core, fuel, drill rod etc. Food good, but coffee here does suck.....thanks anyways I'll bear that in mind end of tour.....:ok:
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Companies can submit their own AltMOC for approval by their NAA. The current AMC/GM requirements are way OTT.
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Well interestingly UK CAA is not going to approve or even look at manuals as companies sign a declaration saying they have a manual and do everything properly. Even down to the trainer can be approved by the company !!!
Basically you almost need an AOC manual for aerial work with supplements explaining what and how you do the various sections of aerial work e.g. parachuting, lifting , line patrol etc etc :ugh: |
Originally Posted by Hughes500
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Well interestingly UK CAA is not going to approve or even look at manuals as companies sign a declaration saying they have a manual and do everything properly. Even down to the trainer can be approved by the company !!!
Basically you almost need an AOC manual for aerial work with supplements explaining what and how you do the various sections of aerial work e.g. parachuting, lifting , line patrol etc etc :ugh: If you apply for an HRA then the CAA want to see your SOPs and your organisation management system oro.gen.200 - effectively wanting to see your manual, if you decide to go that way. That's the way I've understood it - not a huge amount of guidance available. |
Well my ops inspector views high risk as things that would involve people getting hurt if things went wrong. Such as lifting in the middle of London. Normal lifting jobs is normal !!!!
Agree with the guidance, do enough to hang yourself ! |
I am really considering sending my EASA license back and only use one of my other licenses.....
EASA is completely going nuts-not a single pilot in there, not a single person with common sense.....they are destroying the little bit of helicopter industry remaining in Europe... |
I feel your pain hueyracer! The freedom has all but gone:(
Interesting comments hughes500, I've heard mixed comments from the CAA and there seems to be different interpretations of the rules within the CAA.........oh well I'll wait and see what they come back with my Dec and HRA:confused: |
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