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Ian Corrigible 27th Mar 2017 17:27

RT 216 - new German light single turbine
 
Interesting little design which appeared in the static park at this year's Heli-Expo: the SBM Development GmbH RT 216. Two-seats, 1,544 lb MTOW, 160 hp turbine (not a Solar T62T for once - an "SJ A-160"), elastomeric rotorhead and fenestron.

http://i.imgur.com/8UkKlAZ.jpg
(C/o Vertical Mag)

Scans of the two-page flyer which accompanied the aircraft here and here.

An interesting project (like the FAMA KISS 209), but we'll have to see if enjoys a more successful development than the Composite Helicopters KC630...or the Delta D2...or the Heli Air Design HAD 1-T Helineo...or the Helips...or the Pegasus PH200PJ...or the Rotor International RI 30 Eaglet...or the Sagita Sherpa...or the Youngcopter NEO...etc.

I/C

whoknows idont 27th Mar 2017 18:23

Looks like the Disney version of a 120.

noooby 27th Mar 2017 18:46

Are they going to get in trouble (like the 429) for using that skid/crosstube arrangement??

Peter3127 27th Mar 2017 21:03

It looks like they put a 120 into an oven and shrunk it.

CRAN 27th Mar 2017 21:34

It it based on a Rotorway? Looks like the Rotorway hub...

WillyPete 28th Mar 2017 02:30

What is a "versatile fuel" turbine?

krypton_john 28th Mar 2017 02:39

Will run on jet fuel, but also diesel, vegetable oil and perhaps moonshine.

Jelico 28th Mar 2017 07:14

What do they mean by elastomeric rotor head? I always wondered why there aren't any (that I know of) two bladed articulated or even rigid rotor systems. Would be nice to have the best of both worlds - two blades for hangaring, but a system that wont mast bump..

WillyPete 28th Mar 2017 07:45

Helicopter Life magazine's Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...01292423241993

I think they may have pinched one! Apparently, the head is going to be replaced with a 3 bladed rotor as they get going, but it also looks very like the Guimbal and, guess what, the engineers are from the same stable...
"Pinched one" in reference to someone asking if it was a Rotorway head.

Wiggins61 29th Mar 2017 07:28


Originally Posted by Jelico (Post 9721398)
What do they mean by elastomeric rotor head? I always wondered why there aren't any (that I know of) two bladed articulated or even rigid rotor systems. Would be nice to have the best of both worlds - two blades for hangaring, but a system that wont mast bump..

222/230 and Cobra

CRAN 29th Mar 2017 08:36

Elastomeric Rotors
 
This usually means that the traditional bearings have been replaced by 'elastomeric' (rubber-metal laminate) bearings that flex to accommodate the feathering, flapping and lead-lag rather than use rolling elements. Very popular with Airbus and Bell.

The main player in the field is Lord: See Here

In the rotorway, I believe the 'elastomeric bearing' purely handles feathering and is basically a stack of rubber and metallic discs on a central shaft.

CRAN

chopper2004 29th Mar 2017 09:37

I saw and sat inside the RT216 - interesting especially with the main flight display here are my photos below,

Company is German albeit with Chinese investment...

cheers

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...pskze8gf4k.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ps4crqxk7p.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...psx0shzgvc.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...psa2wjqkh5.jpg

Thracian 29th Mar 2017 11:03

Did they tell anything about their Schedule?
Flight testing? Certification? First delivery to customer?


And what about the cost?


Although I´ve tried some different search phrases, I wasn´t able to find any website for this thing. Does somebody have a link?


Thracian

Ian Corrigible 29th Mar 2017 12:14

The German partner appears to be SMB Maschinen GmbH, a foodstuff water drainage system specialist, who in 2004 branched out into the world of gyrocopters by establishing Rotortec. Their Cloud Dancer autogyro family (also offered for parapublic use as the CD 410 AS) would therefore seem to be the genesis for the RT 216, SBM Development GmbH itself having been formed in 2014.

Details of the Chinese tie-up, which appears to be focused on development of the engine, are available via Google translate here.

According to Heliatica, the target date for EASA certification is end-2018, with an expected price tag of 350,000 – 500,000 Euros.

I/C

Phoinix 29th Mar 2017 18:06

Why would you do that??? You have a digital display, which enables you to do a MFD, FLI, whatever, and than you replicate standard instruments... which take space for the navigation or other things you want to display. And than you put in additional standard instruments?!?! As if it's an IFR helicopter?
Engine starter on the roof will make all the restarts so nice... taking away a fighting chance.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...psx0shzgvc.jpg

WillyPete 30th Mar 2017 02:14

What's also odd is that the analogue ALT is flipped 180 compared to the digital. 0 at the bottom, screen has it at the top.
Same for the ASI. The green zone on the ASI is also whack, green from 0 to 190.

VM325 14th Apr 2024 22:58

It's flying. If a little draughty... :8



Bravo73 14th Apr 2024 23:53


Originally Posted by VM325 (Post 11635668)
It's flying. If a little draughty... :8

Are you watching, Dr Hill?

(Although, TBF, it sounds a lot like a Gazelle. Maybe they should have played around with their fenestron blade placements…)

That lights normal! 15th Apr 2024 00:03


Originally Posted by Ian Corrigible (Post 9722852)
……………

According to Heliatica, the target date for EASA certification is end-2018, with an expected price tag of 350,000 – 500,000 Euros.

I/C

A little behind schedule at this stage then.

krypton_john 15th Apr 2024 01:52

Looks loke a Solar T62 32 and is described in the flyer as a single shaft turbine.


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