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thepilot76 27th Sep 2016 18:38

EC135 multi-pilot ops possible?
 
Hello,

does anyone see the chance to operate a EC 135 helicopter "multi-crew ops" under EASA NCO regulations?

Thanks for any clues!!

Thepilot76

jet88 27th Sep 2016 19:15

Isn't that what babcocks onshore / formally bond do down in Gloucester?

Thud_and_Blunder 27th Sep 2016 21:23


formally bond
Sounds like someone who'd ask for Mish Moneypenny. Would 'formerly' have got the point across better?

To the original poster: I think jet88 was referring to the operation Bond/BabMishCritCock(Unsure) ran from Cork out to the Irish-controlled rigs. Definitely a 2-pilot/MCC, commercial air transport gig.

whoknows idont 28th Sep 2016 03:40

Read this thread from last week:
Single pilot helicopter with 2 pilots flying

hueyracer 28th Sep 2016 05:48

Yes, it is possible-but your Ops Manual must clearly state under which conditions the helicopter MUST be flown with two pilots....


The manufacturer states it is a Single-Pilot IFR certified helicopter, so you canīt use the RFM, but your Ops Manual can define it as "Multi Pilot".

This Ops Manual-however-must be approved by the authorities first.....

And-keep in mind:
This means your crews MUST be Multi-Pilot-Type Rated VFR and IFR on the EC135!

They will not be allowed to fly a single pilot 135 then, unless they have done a single-pilot type rating as well...

GipsyMagpie 29th Sep 2016 05:22

So, back to the posters actual question, I don't think you can under Part-NCO because in that case you wouldn't have an ops manual. Isn't the EC135 too heavy for Part-NCO - isn't it NCC? In any case you'd probably need to be in a commercial organisation that has an ops manual and is then doing a nob-revenue flight. Possible but unlikely.

Hedski 29th Sep 2016 17:36

On that point, has anyone a link to Part-NCO and -NCC online?

puntosaurus 29th Sep 2016 20:30

EASA technical publications are here

NCC starts at 3176 Kg.


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