Greek Apache Helicopter crashes into sea.
 

Cant understand the text but it shows a Greek Apache helicopter crashing into the water after what looks like a wingover. Anyone shed some more light on this?

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HB999

A pity that no-one had shown them how to do one properly.

Show boating! Use a boat......
 

About 5-7 seconds into the video it looks like a little flash out of the exhaust area?

That aside, rubbish wing over, started low ended lower:D

Google translate
(But that doesn't matter as it written by a journalist anyway)

SLB

Shocking images recorded at the video of the zougla.gr and exclusively captures the last few seconds before and after the fall of the helicopter (AH-64D) of Army Aviation in Vrasna beach (bay Korfanou) in Thessaloniki.

Under unclear circumstances so far, while the Apache is running low flight over homes and beach bathers falls violently sea. One operator was able to extricate himself in time, but the left unharmed with the help of colleagues.

According to zougla.gr information, the commander of the helicopter bearing the rank of major and the co-pilot the rank of captain. Both are experienced pilots with many hours of flight (night, week, etc.). The Apache belongs to the 2nd Battalion attack helicopters of the 1st Army Aviation Brigade.

All I get is a black screen with those videos.

Engine failure apparently:
Apache Helicopter Crash in Northern Greece, Survivors Reported | GreekReporter.com

Fly like a tw@, crash like a tw@

That will be the flash out the back at low level over the lake. Nice pull up shortly after, but wtf did he try the aggressive wing over for? Unnecessary loss of an expensive aircraft. Never mind, Greece can afford it.:8

The video:

Just where on the scale of "this will not end in tears" did he need to be, to realise that was not a good idea. I've heard he had third party only as well.....:{

newspaper ( :rolleyes: ) says engine failure

er is this a single / twin discussion then? :oh:

Thanks for that, John.

If you look at the pictures in this article, you will see why the pilot would not want to crash on land, and forced his helicopter back over the sea: The beach is full of people.
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http://www.zougla.gr/image.ashx?fid=2055652

To me it looks (and sounds) like engine failure around 0:06 in the video, followed by power loss, and high speed autorotation landing attempt.

I don't see the actual reversal in the video so how do you know how aggressive it was? Looks like he was trying to outdo his mate, who was successful, although maybe not his mate anymore as he thought it better to fly away rather than hover over the wreck to check if the crew were ok!!

Engine failure - of course it was. Very brave of them to continue with a wingover on one engine. Ouzo and medals on return to base.

Obviously not much room left for error to pull off such a manoeuvre.

The person filming summed it accurately by referring to the person in control as a "Malaka" (W@nker).

212. I was just commenting on the 'need' to continue a climb and turn back? After a possible engine problem. Perhaps he didn't correctly recognise it? Plenty of people have not noticed until too late that they have a problem. Aggressive or not? Well had it been gentle he should have had good VY speed/height and no need for dunker drills. " Malaka" is right.

The crew, formerly Major Disaster and Captain Catastrophe (now Corporal Punishment and Private Parts), get a perfect 10 10 for September's Wizard Prang competition! Despite his kipper having been smoked, I'll wager he was not back for breakfast

Looks like an ad-hoc and probably unauthorised attempt at impressing bystanders. How many more people are going to kill and maim themselves and crew members by attempting wingovers in such an incompetent manner?

Another stupid and unnecessary waste.

If this was the RAF, they'd have to promote him now....

Well clearly it was just a pair trying to impress the bystanders - one crashed and the other one didn't....Pretty sure no engine problems were involved.

212man,

Care to explain the flame out the back of the engine at time 0:06 in the video? Are you still pretty sure they had no engine problems?