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beserk 31st Aug 2016 09:14

Chook safety
 
If you through a chook out the door at 2,000' will or did it land safely?

Wageslave 31st Aug 2016 14:06

We usually post in English here.

Could you translate please?

212man 31st Aug 2016 14:08

He's talking Australian English - it's a chicken.

PDR1 31st Aug 2016 14:24

And he means "throw".

PDR

BOBAKAT 31st Aug 2016 14:59

How old the chicken ?

PDR1 31st Aug 2016 15:03

What breed?

PDR

twinstar_ca 31st Aug 2016 15:04

Just remember that Les Nesman thought turkeys could fly... just saying!! ;)

Fareastdriver 31st Aug 2016 15:08

We used to have our rations parachuted in at our forward base in Borneo. Ghurkhas like to have their food delivered 'on the hoof' as it were so chickens were in little cages on the pallet.

One day one 'snatched' as it came out of the back of a Beverley and the load broke up in the air. Half the chickens went ballistic with the hard stuff but a cage broke open and three or four catapulted into the air at about 400 ft..

Their flying technique could be described as messy but they didn't hit the ground too hard and had the privilege of staring at the inside of a sack until their necks were wrung.

krypton_john 31st Aug 2016 21:44

A Penciled Hamburg will be fine, but never ever try this with a Plymouth Rock.

I believe the Booted Bantam is currently awaiting certification.

Bull at a Gate 31st Aug 2016 22:22

Don't know about dropping chooks from a height, but my silver spangled hamburgs can fly over a 1.5 metre fence when startled.

HEDP 31st Aug 2016 22:39

Live, frozen, de-frosted, roasted or boiled?

Wageslave 1st Sep 2016 09:31

English?
If you through????? If you went through? Looked through? That ain't English.
out the door????? Out of the door perhaps. That ain't English
Chook. That ain't English.
will or did it land safely ain't English either. A question beginning in "if" requires "would" to introduce the proposed result, "will or did" is a completely novel and nonsensical construction I doubt anyone has ever seen before.

Even the Aussies don't mangle the language to that extent.

If you through!!!! My God, I'd never have believed that if I hadn't seen it.

What has this to do with Professional Pilots I wonder?

Freewheel 1st Sep 2016 09:58


Originally Posted by beserk (Post 9491914)
If you through a chook out the door at 2,000' will or did it land safely?


Not if it was frozen.

John Eacott 1st Sep 2016 11:12

Depends if you won it in the Friday night chook raffle instead of the meat tray?

G0ULI 1st Sep 2016 11:29

Factory farmed chooks (or chickens) are poorly equipped to fly and will probably perish on hitting the ground. Free range chickens or those closer in evolutionary terms to their wild ancestors are capable of surprisingly long flights, perhaps as high as thirty feet up a tree to escape predators. They would survive the fall.

onetrack 1st Sep 2016 13:44

I think this young bloke is trying to settle an argument with a school mate. :)

The answer is ...

1. Chooks can't fly all that well. They can fly a few dozen metres at best - if their wings haven't clipped, as many chook owners do to them. Their wings are clipped to stop them from flying over fences, which they can do.

2. GOULI is right - they'd hit the ground at about 120-150kmh, and you'd be picking up a dead chook, fer sure. :)

PDR1 1st Sep 2016 14:23


Originally Posted by G0ULI (Post 9493321)
Free range chickens or those closer in evolutionary terms to their wild ancestors are capable of surprisingly long flights, perhaps as high as thirty feet up a tree to escape predators. They would survive the fall.

That would depend on the nature of the release/jettison envelope, surely? I mean if jettisoned from a balloon or helicopter at the high hover I would probably agree, and similarly if released from a Tiger Moth at 15kts over the top of a lazy loop.

But if released from a fast transport (150kts?) or fast jet (300kts?) I suspect an untrained chook would be unlikely to focus sufficiently on keeping the wings and tail furled until the speed dropped and would almost certainly suffer severe structural damage to the wings and empenage, rendering a survivable landing rather unlikely. Indeed at the upper end of this speed envelope it is likely that the wings would be ripped off by the slipstream resulting in a chook which is not on deceased, but would also raise a much lower scrap purchase value to RTP organisations like Missouri Fried Chicken.

PDR

whoknows idont 1st Sep 2016 16:30

I wonder if they would continuously flap their wings or instinctively attempt gliding...
This really calls for some practical trials. :suspect:


Edit: Apparently the annual Live Turkey Drop seems to go way back in Yellville, Arkansas.
As long as no one gets hit by a paralyzed turkey projectile, it promises to be great fun for the whole family!

andytug 1st Sep 2016 16:45

Judging by ours, flapping. Definitely.

Fareastdriver 1st Sep 2016 20:05

Our ones flapped half-a-dozen times. fell, flapped, fell, flapped, and by pure luck, having not had much use out of their ground proximity sensors, touched down hard and rolled over.


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