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Originally Posted by EESDL (Post 9498204)

simple - bolt on a sensor, duct tape the wiring and now you have S&HEMS.
CBT whilst hanging about the crew room will cover the FLIR training.
YAA are already talking about fitting a winch so add an 'R'
S&RHEMs
Make it a silent 'H' as everyone knows by now that only helicopters come to the rescue....
You could argue that the 'E' is duplication as such tasks are not done for pleasure so it is always an Emergency.
S&RMS looks ungainly and the '&' is tricky and therefore makes name badges more expensive so replace with a stock letter like an 'A'
SARMS - looking familiar yet?
Will not be long before Bristows bid for the NPAS contract........

Excellent result with the Bodmin Moor case - how come they always appear to be found there?
I would have gone straight there ;-)
Tongue slightly in cheek but why not?
Also removes the often-cited tax-payer justification for retaining the copper chopper.

Just a word of caution on that Yorkshire AA comment.

My instruction is that the "winch" gear is fitted and will not be removed.

As I keep on being told by the manufacturers apparently we have to call them hoists these days. More a problem for me than casual conversations on here.

The YAA hoist is to be used as a retractable long line and they have no inclination to engage up or down while there is a body on it. That reduces the training requirement. But like all things that are there who knows what five years time will bring?

I think this question is rather pointless given the arbitrary dissolution of police air support, in rural parts of England and Wales (congrats on the footy last night) in any case.

The whole multi-use HEMS-Police-SAR helicopter thing was discussed at RUSI in April 2012. There were very experienced people there from all those helicopter disciplines and several countries.

The multi-use idea did not gain much traction.

Some UK air ambulance types were getting very excited about long-line and this led to much rolling of eyes amongst those who have a grasp of the HEC accident rate in other territories. The Norwegian air ambulance guy emphasised the training load for their long-line work (10 training sorties per op sortie) and that its purpose was to insert a paramedic before the SAR helicopter arrived.

The Poles were developing a system for MR to abseil from air ambulances but again that was about insertion of specialist help at the casualty location.