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muermel 27th Jun 2016 20:23

Bell 407 Hard Landing Germany
 
A Bell 407 registration D-HEAB did a hard landing after "technical difficulties with the engine". Seems like the pilot autorotated into a field, the pilot was unharmed. The helicopter sure seems to be in a lot worse state.

https://www.hna.de/lokales/hofgeisma...r-6522304.html

Aircraft was on it's way from Assen/ NL to Ingolstadt (Bavaria) and the pilot was the only occupant. The accident site is roughly 5 NM north of Kassel-Calden (EDVK) where the pilot was headed to refuel.

Lucky guy I'd say :ok:

albatross 27th Jun 2016 20:36

Glad he made it...sorry about the tailboom chop.

Flyting 28th Jun 2016 03:59

Definately not a hard landing... Skids aren't bent at all.

gulliBell 28th Jun 2016 05:01

Nice wide open area to autorotate into. Looks like the toe of the skids may have dug in causing the thing to rock forward and chop off the tail. This will be an expensive repair. Hopefully for the pilot it's not a case of engine failure due to fuel exhaustion.

whoknows idont 28th Jun 2016 05:08

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Maybe not so wide open as he closely avoided the wires... You don't see the wires in any of the other pictures so they must be pretty close to the resting position of the A/C...

212man 28th Jun 2016 05:45

What's the white bracket on the rear underside?

whoknows idont 28th Jun 2016 06:02

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I'd say that's a camera mount.

Bell_ringer 28th Jun 2016 07:03

From the close up pic of the cowling, the floor under the main gearbox appears to have sagged which would indicate some vertical energy. Unless my pre-coffee state is causing me to see things.

Edit: Post coffee just noticed it is an optical illusion created by the support for the camera mount.

HeliHenri 28th Jun 2016 07:36

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Brazil,same day, same type, 5 POB, they didn't have the same luck :(

The Bell 407 crashed and caught fire

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=188411


http://i0.wp.com/www.cavok.com.br/bl...6/IMG_5573.jpg

mickjoebill 28th Jun 2016 11:59

There is a side mount and a nose camera mount fitted.


Mickjoebill

212man 28th Jun 2016 13:47

Thanks WKID and MJB.

Of course we don't see ANFI on these single engine threads!

whoknows idont 28th Jun 2016 15:20


Originally Posted by 212man (Post 9423301)
Of course we don't see ANFI on these single engine threads!

Strange, isn't it? :E

Loki696 28th Jun 2016 17:59

What I heard is that the machine left early from the Dutch TT and did not film the GP 2 and also not the main event of the TT the GP 1.

krypton_john 28th Jun 2016 20:19

Given we don't know the cause of these crashes, why would you expect anFI for anyone else to comment?

Petty stuff around a serious issue IYAM. :-\

AnFI 28th Jun 2016 23:15

ooh i see i get a mention again 212 and idontknow

was there a problem? we don't know the cause (the guy presumably ran out of fuel) but we know he autorotated successfully as far as the current mandated (inadequate under EASA) stardard requires

gulliBell 29th Jun 2016 03:27

I guess the definition of a successful autorotation is one where you're able to get out and walk away unharmed after the event. In which case this one would be successful. It's just a shame to see all that damage when the forced landing area options seem 8/8 flat level for as far as the eye can see.

When I read engine failure 5 minutes out from the refuelling stop screams volumes to me.

canausheli 29th Jun 2016 04:46

Compensation
 
I wonder how much they had to pay the farmer for the damage to his crop, good looking heads.

Bell_ringer 29th Jun 2016 07:24

I find it difficult to believe that someone wouldn't opt to put it down in a field and take their medicine rather than carry on.
A 407 isn't complex and missing the amber caution, which would be lit for almost 30 minutes, and not seeing the fuel guage drop to two-digits and below seems unusual.

It would be interesting to see what recent maintenance may have been performed.

hueyracer 29th Jun 2016 07:44

So far, it is only a rumor that was brought up here in this forum by other users...

Yes-running out of fuel was the first thing coming into my mind as well when i read the post.....but that does not mean anything...

I am curious to see what the investigation finds out.....

I have mentioned this in another post before:
I put an aircraft down 5 klicks away from an airfield once (with still enough fuel in it to go all the way, just due to the weather with strong headwind, the light came on early, and i did not want to risk it)...

The struggle i had to go through with the authorities in Germany is unbelievable, and it led me to the conclusion that iŽd rather risk autorotating it somewhere next time (which of course i will not do)...

The whole aviation industry, but especially the authorities are f*#*# up!

chopjock 29th Jun 2016 09:32


When I read engine failure 5 minutes out from the refuelling stop screams volumes to me.
So he had a full tank then?


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