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Stinger10 19th May 2016 13:29

TH-119 Advanced Training Helicopter
 
Pretty cool that TH-119 will be the first FAA certified IFR Single Engine in like 25 years too. Finally! IFR capability in less than VMC weather has been well documented as a safer way to operate than scud run under ceilings and makes operators' insurers much happier. Single Engine cost savings too. :ok:

Leonardo-Finmeccanica announces TH-119 helicopter - UPI.com

http://cdnph.upi.com/sv/b/i/UPI-3931...t-training.jpg

http://www.navyrecognition.com/image...am_640_002.jpg

Um... lifting... 19th May 2016 16:44

I got to fly it for about 30 minutes a couple years ago when it had the previous instrument package in it. A huge leap in capability from the TH-57.

Stinger10 19th May 2016 17:12


Originally Posted by Um... lifting... (Post 9381582)
I got to fly it for about 30 minutes a couple years ago when it had the previous instrument package in it. A huge leap in capability from the TH-57.

I heard the avionics in the AW119Kx (which was what you must have flown?) would not meet IFR certification and the Genesys Aero package is already an IFR certified system. Makes a lot of sense.

Digital cockpits are just not nearly as expensive when compared to old analog cockpits in terms of cost and weight. Seems like finally an OEM understands this and the market demand....

tottigol 19th May 2016 19:25

Excellent solution for the NAVY training program.
I wonder how many El-Cheapo EMS operator shall run to this solution.

Stinger10 19th May 2016 20:18


Originally Posted by tottigol (Post 9381771)
Excellent solution for the NAVY training program.
I wonder how many El-Cheapo EMS operator shall run to this solution.

I have to believe they will significantly lower their risk factors by having the ability to operate IFR in IMC, or even just safer operations in MVFR by having an IFR option.

Um... lifting... 19th May 2016 20:25


I heard the avionics in the AW119Kx (which was what you must have flown?)
Indeed. At the time it was the first time (to my knowledge) that the airframe was brought to the NHA Fleet Fly-In. I have a mole in N. Philly. Pretty sure the goal that year was to show the airframe and put some butts in seats. I'm no expert, but looks like they've been progressing to determine requirements and deliver a training system that will mesh well between the T-6 and fleet rotorcraft.

I'm pretty sure this is the same S/N airframe I flew, just with the Genesys package installed now. Easy enough to check.

Stinger10 19th May 2016 20:34


Originally Posted by Um... lifting... (Post 9381849)
Indeed. At the time it was the first time (to my knowledge) that the airframe was brought to the NHA Fleet Fly-In. I have a mole in N. Philly. Pretty sure the goal that year was to show the airframe and put some butts in seats. I'm no expert, but looks like they've been progressing to determine requirements and deliver a training system that will mesh well between the T-6 and fleet rotorcraft.

I'm pretty sure this is the same S/N airframe I flew, just with the Genesys package installed now. Easy enough to check.

Isn't Genesys what used to be know as Chelton? The flight deck looks ALOT like what the newly winged naval aviators will see in their Navy, Marine, and USCG helicopters. No touch screens, just simple and capable. They all fly with helmets and gloves anyway.

Um... lifting... 19th May 2016 20:56

From that font of peer-reviewed knowledge... Wikipedia.

I believe Wulfsberg is also in their portfolio.

The de facto standard these days seems to be a pair of alphanumeric MCDUs, a couple each PFD and MFD, whether it's an offshore helicopter (except the 525) or an airliner and maybe an extra screen or two if you've got the panel and budget space. I'm not sold on touchscreens, but to be fair, haven't used them either.

April, 2014 - Genesys Aerosystems acquired Chelton Flight Systems and S-TEC Corporation.[1][2]
November 10, 2006 - CFS was granted FAA STC approval of the EFIS in the Eurocopter EC 120B helicopter.[citation needed]
September 21, 2006 - CFS was chosen to supply the EFIS for MD Helicopters' light singles program.[citation needed]
2006 - CFS joins GlobalFlyer in the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum.[citation needed]
April 30, 2006 - The M28 Sky Truck from Landmark Aviation delivered its first CFS EFIS equipped aircraft.[citation needed]
June, 2001 - Cobham plc acquired Sierra Flight Systems and renamed the company Chelton Flight Systems.[citation needed]
1997 - CFS founded.

Stinger10 23rd May 2016 13:42

TH-119 in the flesh.....
 
Dual pitot static tubes and all. They are serious about the IFR certification...

https://www.flightglobal.com/assets/...x?itemid=67151


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